From what I have seen in the past,,, you really cant shock it in too em, or beat it out of em.. It has to not BE IN THEIR BLOOD... A man can go through 100 cds and may only find 20 of em with enough sense to figure it out,,others just dont have enough self control to learn patience.. Thats why it is so important, I think, that once you find a male and a gyp that does not pull on lead, doesnt whine on the box, no dog aggression, and doesnt run in to a catch with his eyes closed before he hits the hog.... You'd better BREED THEM>>>
I would have to disagree. Basic Obedience can go along way with any breed. Bulldogs do get switched on but it is your responsibility as an owner and handler to have a good handle on that switch no matter what it takes. E-collar is very effective and a hitch around their flanks will stop them from pulling everytime. JMO
Joey Young
You're right about the hitch,, but how many times does it take for them to learn when a bay is goin on where they can hear it,, I guess I just dont have enough patience for em anymore,,Done shocked em only to hear em holler more than they were before I shocked em.

But theres plenty of fellers that know more about dogs than I do,, guess I just like the easy ones to train...
