Message #167704

[Txhoghunter]

I've got a pretty good method to make them quit, and it works 100% of the time   

are they still alive?

no. Unless I have no other choice I try not to own a bulldog with no manners. Hard to beat or shock sense into a grown dog.  Raising them from pups helps, but it seems like for me it's an automatic death sentence if I raise a cd from a pup.