The setters from thoses days were square headed for brain power but look at todays english/irish setters. They have that pin head look that does not allow for brains...
I thought I was the only one that noticed that... Look at the black and white pictures of pointers, setters, sh!t, even hounds from 50 yrs ago... then look at what's out there today and tell me which one you'd rather have... Not sure how these genetics have been lost, but they have for the most part...
And Reuben, it'd be my honor to raise and hunt one of your dogs. Just make sure it comes out built like that dark brindle dog in the back of the truck!!!!

You and I seem to be on the same page... You been able to hunt with Scott L's dogs lately?