well said, no doubt it raises percentages, but the topic is saying genetics alone make every aspect of a dog except the handling and trash breaking which is just not true and only someone new to raising pups could think it is in my opinion, yes there is a better chance of genetics making a outstanding dog opposed to just a good dog... but does anyone really believe that genetics alone can make, train, and finish an exceptional dog consistently without any training whatsoever besides trash breaking??? thats the point im tring to make and keep gettin off track

I don't think the topic was saying genetics alone makes every aspect of a dog and I wasn't either.. The topic is training vs genetics and I'm not sure what you're trying to argue because you just said your dogs have been linebred for 40 years and that genetics will give you a higher percentage of good dogs. You are basically agreeing with and arguing the same thing at the same time.. I can't imagine someone hunting and breeding a line of dogs for 40 years if they thought they could just train a dog to have the same hunt and want to..
And yes I do think that you could take a dog with the right genetics and want to to the woods and do nothing but turn him loose and he would figure out how to hunt and run and bay hogs.
Who is "training" all them coyotes and wolves to hunt , find, rundown and kill food? Wonder why they all look so much alike? Genetics. Mother Nature Culls HARD..