and since it came up in some post on this thread, ive tried to have cow broke bulldogs so ya dont have issues in that area, not sayin never had a accident but after one the dogs got broke really quick.
Since I brought it up. Many years ago I had one catch a cow and tore her head all up. I was able to pen her and doctor her but the landowner was PO'ed. I took care of business and we got along. I will blame it on haveing new catch dogs every week and them not knowing any different, not that I was young and dumb. Lol still ain't much smarter. After that incident I am very careful how I turn em loose, especially new ones.