Message #319084

[Corey]

I agree for the most part, I will say for me independence is very important but I believe to a pup too independent leads to a harder to train dog for lack of eagerness to please.  And a pup that continues to get rolled by hogs in pen and yet goes back for more shows heart and determination, I would expect a bay dog to get out of the way and continue to do its job. that gets rolled consistently I see too dim to move or one that is going to be pretty rough. But that is simply my own interruption. All we can do is make educated or intictive guesses, put the time in em and hope we're close to right.