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Reuben
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« Reply #100 on: March 29, 2012, 03:15:24 pm »

when our forfathers came here we were immagrants , the indians had the land and we corraled them up killed them and took over so I think that was wrong and who says we americans really belong , we are all created by the same god and equal , they should have the same oppertuniy as the next man with out worring about tomarrow

x2...100% agree...but the reality is that greed does not allow it...we need systems in place that allow for the poor to grow and become tax paying citizens...I am not saying to give hand outs but the system should not allow people to stay in a rut...the incentive for the people on government  assistance should be set up for said people to better themselves...right now these programs do not have these goals in mind...they seem to be never ending and welfare people beget more of the same...

a good example I will give is this;

a young mother is not educated for whatever reason...she has 2 kids and she is single with a very low paying job... the government provides for some of her needs...well, she figures out that if she keeps having children the help keeps coming...the system is set up to keep these folks in the system and they keep creating more of the same...so we keep paying higher taxes to supplement these government programs...the spending is never ending...because chances are some of her kids will be dependant on government help and some will probably wind up in prison...but that definitely creates income for lawyers, judges...the legal system in general...

now some will say that these folks just need to go get a job...well if you have never been real poor you just don't know...when your born into this type of system it is hard to get out of it...some do get out but it is hard to stay out of it but doable...but more often than not these folks don't get out...some may just have given up...it seems that the folks that are well off are only looking out for their children so they don't care about the poor...as long as they stay poor it just means less competition for their children...but these same folks are the same ones who talk about the poor and the programs and why don't they go out and get a job...blah blah blah...

getting back to the young mother...if the program was set up where other welfare moms can sit at home or go to a daycare and babysit welfare mom children and educate them... then we are building a good foundation for those kids...not only that but some of these welfare moms are actually earning their government assistance...and this allows some other welfare moms to go out and get a job and supplement their assistance by doing so...These moms have to pass a drug test or their assitance will be penalized...and the system will allow for a big monetary incentive to get a tubal so that they can not have any more chidren...and this is strictly voluntary...but so what if it gives 25 thousand dollars to do this... the results will pay off big in the long run...because we will have less folks on these programs...and our taxes will start to drop off as more and more citizens become productive...

just looking at the big picture as I see it...

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