YBM, funny you say something about getting smoked. I have not had the best luck here in the past few weeks. On two different spots I've gotten runners. In both places they seem to do just like you said, making smaller figure 8s and/or doing a huge loop around us, and then heading out straight for mile or more. I hate those dang runners! Ive had my fare share in the past three weeks I promise you...

And when you all up in that thick stuff it makes it that much harder. Gotta love those Garmins though.