Message #533461

[uglydog]

Semmes, I will try to answer You from My opinion as what I have dealt with working the different breeds and making the first cross as to where the dogs are now after criss crossing the same lines back and fourth (not just breeds) now that they are no longer just as crossing two breeds and and mixing paint waiting to grow and see what You end up with. This has been a long term project. Many Years and Many good people that have been honest and trustworthy to use these dogs and kep in contact to give honest feedback has been the key to what has been going on with the dogs themselves. One person cant do it all themselves, testing, proving and pushing these dogs to find the flaws, to staw away from, to avoid the kennel blindness. James Reasoner, has been Essential at the many many discussions and keeping Us on track, whenever I may have started let My feet leave the ground, I THank Him and Everyone that has had these dogs and hunted them. Without James Reasoner taking Nickle/Pickle (nick names take over) from Me as a pup, pushing her and then taking the intrest in carrying forward this program, It would have most likely ended. Pickle produced Doodle, Karma, PJ and with that generation its going to last .

Back to subject. later starting dogs, Yes some of these pups mature slower, their minds take a little longer to develop and personally think they do not need any heavy hands or obedience just social skills and leash training, get them out around people take them with the famil or put them in the truck and take them ot places and let them be pups leave them alone, never need "training" many dogs need confidence building, and start on small pigs and watching, and a lot of keeping a dominant handle on them to keep them from being problem dogs. I feel like these dogs should be raised like golden retrievers until 9-10 months old and then let them see, because they will protect and want to work for their people, if they are not Over handled and pushed to be "super obedient" nearly opposite of what I do with a Pit.

Whats the benefits of this? These dogs "THINK" atleast earlier generations. I want the dogs capable of knowing and able to make the choices, and trust them to be able to choose the right way. This is not for everyone, but when Your ass in a bind, this dog can choose to let go of one hog and come after the hog that's got Your ass down or a bull, or whatever is problematic, not just chase off what is running because prey drive has kicked in a tiny brain. Yes they have prey drive, but it does not always overload them as does a Pit or many ABs. Some Dogos are too smart making them too soft and need a pack environment to finish a job, not all, some are more prey driven and really like the battle. These dogs as a blanket stement can handle both. They have good health at this time, good skin, good ears, good disposition, If You have to wait a few more months for them to "grow up" and develop that mind and have a dog with longevity for Your family, and a True Partner, then I believe its well worth it.  I have a passion for Dogs, working dogs of any kind, but I want Real dogs too, not fluff. Nobodys getting rich off marketing and selling these dogs that's for sure, Its a love for the partner You have, and the way the dog handles, and knowing they have Your back., They are not a dime a dozen dog from the pound as many like to think of Catch dogs.

Im not in the woods like I once was, I was there like nobodys business for a long time, it was because I wanted to work with My dogs, not kill hogs. I don't claim these dogs are perfect and in any line their will be some that need culling, I truly believe only the top of litter should be reproduced if at all, Not everybody needs one. I do believe these boys have their feet on the ground and can do right by what many of Us put the time behind and did the hard stuff that many other don't have the guts to do did, and will continue to cull when it needs to be done. If anybody wants to know more I will do my best to tell it like it is, and was.