Message #533466

[uglydog]

Indian Valley, No Captain and Jake were little pups. I can tell You there were two AB guys in that area that were very familiar with many types of the old lines, Scott, Painter and so on .  Roger Williams and Mitch Allison and either one of those guys might be a way to trace that name. I know Roger Williams in on FB and into protection dogs now or what I see pictures of from time to time, but I would be willing to bet He would be Happy to talk ABs and go back with You.

Semmes- reading back on some of Your other questions. about being "game" and "hot" If these dogs were "hot" I would Cull, I cant stand a dog that will get that way when in woods and need them to focus, the cur dogs get pissy, and need Your Bull to be level headed. My Pits I have had and all bull types have to be trustworthy around chickens cattle, and anythings on a farm environment. I believe that was original job to serve humans as a helper and be smart enough to do as needed. I think they should be bred that way again and wouldn't have so many issues

As Far as health, several died in the woods, and others lived into retirement, catching hogs until a ripe old age, still with good teeth and good health. The first crosses, some are still around, that first pic of Cotton not looking to spry, well because He is 10 years old, in pic, He still game to grab a hog, a little grumpy about other dogs bumping into him, but still loves little kids and babies. Zeus, Morgan, also lived to over ten years of age. Those dogs came into to the world not raised around children but everyone took to a human baby and dare you to try and hurt a kid in their presence. Smoochy would wrap her body around strangers kids and start watching for people to warn them off with her stink eye. Those things were born into these dogs not conditioned. Another trait I fell in love with, even though I think most kids should be fed to the gators. Now Karma she not as trustworthy of people of any age, just let her be and she will decide whom she will warm up too and that's fine. She handles For me, me only, all off lead, I can send her to catch my penned hogs and call her off because she jumps fences, and closed tailgates and goes where she wants when she wants, but she decides to do as I ask of her and she is well behaved. trees squirrels, reaches under my hens nesting and grabs snakes, and wont steal eggs or bother a bird, has enough sense to know what belongs and what don't belong and what is okay to kill and not. I put her vest and collar on and she acts like a wound up idiot when the dogs go to baying, and she going to fly in and catch like nobodys business. She is Doodles littermate. I picked for myself and keep now. This may seem odd, but welcome to come meet the dogs that are still alive, Im happy to show the dogs, and why I have them. The lack of physical limitations and the speed, I don't find necessary to do PennHip or OFA testing on these, like I do with My Catahoulas. Soundness in very important, as with every aspect in breeding dogs,