I shock my dogs as little as possible I want there decision to be there own when they are asked. But when I do shock em I bare down on em so they remember. But I let them bark at the house when ever they want to bark I let them be a dog but when I want them to hush they better. I know every one has there own opinions on all things this just how I do things a BB gun will work wonders to just shoot there dog house and tell them to hush they will get it
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I am pretty much on the same page as you as far as them carrying on a bit here and there during the day, after all they are dogs. BUT I wont tolerate one that is raising hell nonstop because he is ticked off that he is on a chain. I rarely use a shock collar myself, I prefer the Red Rider, that 25$ BB gun works wonders around my place. By the time my pups are old enough to go on a chain they are all well aware of what the rattling of the BB gun means and will shut up pretty quick with nothing but a shake or two of the gun
