Collar breaking...

I rarely ever use tone and shock. Only time I use them is when leading my bulldog but they have gotten to where I snap the lead and they fall in proper walking. Its not show quality, just a loose lead.. and I use it for the occasional lippy dog in the box. Anyways, with my curs, for some reason they just tend come when called for the most part. I think there is a fine line that can be easily crossed when training a dog to come back... with calling, and especially with a collar. I would definitely make sure I knew what I was doing first. Mine get to know their name and my voice when I feed and when I call them when trying to load after a drop. I never call it to train them to come back at short and medium distances. Some dogs... it may condition them to not range out. They may think "he doesn't want me going this far out". If a pup gets off my yard, I chase him down lol. When I drop them at a hunt... No one can talk to or touch the youngsters, only when they are in the box. Surprisingly they aren't wild animals lol. I have one old cur that has never been shocked but just toned her by mistake twice and both times she shut down the rest of the hunt. Maybe my dogs are just too sensitive. I would definitely consider other methods... I believe the dog decides how much is too much and I wouldn't want them conditioned into being a lap dog.