all i'm gonna say is ya'll over think this stuff to much ..... start with bloodline thats where consistancy comes from .....besides that either he or she just progresses on his or her own with hunting experience .....if not you gotta be a trainer ...... thats it its simple ...... watch lab trainers force train dogs that are hard or bird hunters they'll burn one up .... but they are trainers ........ no knocking any ones ways it each to his own but its not that big of a deal for me ...
I’m not knocking you a bit Larry, I’ll be the first to admit I’ll get heavy handed when needed but it’s mainly for discipline and handling issues, I’m no where near bad about as I used to be and that’s mostly because of the dogs I’m raising now don’t really need it much and it takes a different approach with them, I spend enough time with mine that they learn voice commands and couple that with the tone and they handle pretty decent, now there are a few light whoopings involved at first until they recognize the commands...
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