While we are at it .

I still say if you inbreed too tightly you are asking for problems. Read what Barlow wrote about the Plott guy that did.

I agree with you and yes this should be the point to were you stop at this point you are tearing down the very line you have produced because you have now bred so far into the line that the line has noting else to give except the unwanted !!!!!!!!!

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Inbreeding does not cause the problem... problems in the genetic material cause the problem.

When the "breeder" inbreeds it may not cause the direct problem at first , its when the breeder dont know when to stop. I sure think when you inbreed you yourself the breeder is contrubiting to the problem because you are doubling and tripleing the same genes over and over so therefore you are asking for problems the futher you go with it . We are not dealing with wild animals that are in the wild, we are the breeders of a product so we control what we do so its us that contrubute to the problem at hand. I dont understand why anyone would want to just keep inbreeding and inbreeding at one point are another you are going to come to the finished product which should be the goal in the first place atleast the way I think anyway may not be right with some folks but thats my ideal anyway.

Mr Parker said
"its when you have bad traits a nd bad physical problems they can get worse "

Great point !

Over the years I have been ask hundreds of times how do you know when it is time to outcross your line after you have inbred and line bred it so much .

My anwser has always been. I let mother nauter tell me when it is time to outcross . Next question from them is well how do you know when she is telling you to outcross . Its simple when you start getting liters that a lacking and you start loosing things such as wind , abulity , speed , staminia , size and all the things the line is known for that is when mother nature is telling you hey man you have gone far enought . Why would a person want to go anoy futher there is no logical explenation other than he are she just wants to and I say it is a waste of time after this happens you are hurting the line of dogs and there is no use going any futher . The line itself is telling you hey man this is enough you have trap all the good genes you are going to trap so why inbreed any more when you have gotton to the point to were you have done all you can do as far as traping the genes you have wanted to trap now you are going to far and starting to trap the unwanted genes that tears a line of good dogs apart !

There is such a thing as a end product when this starts to happen that is the end product of inbreeding and hard core line breeding . Wouldnt you think if you think not I would love to h ere why you think not .

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