Run to catch

   If one was to take a July like the write up describes and use it on pigs you wouldn't have an exceptional distinguished dog as described in the write up. You would get a common pig dog that has some but only minor differences to the majority of pig dogs which then would make the July pig dog comparable to the common pig dog.

   How does one conclude this? Well the July is a distinguished fox dog. Purposefully and uniquely bred to stand out as a effecient fox dog. A big pig is not a fox and the July was not bred to catch big pigs it was bred and created for fox. There is somewhat of a significant difference. If one really wants to stand out and create a pig dog that can give same level of performance as the July does on fox then one must breed dogs capable of doing so.
   Want to create a pig dog that will give same level of performance and efficiency on pigs that the July give on fox? Let's visit this a moment.

The July first and foremost caught. Hunted to do so. The July didn't bay.

Second the July had lot of endurance. Well we done eliminated bay dogs so that leaves looking at catch breeds. There are a few catch breeds that fit the endurance category ok.

   The July had pretty good nose. Pigs give off ton more scent so that helps and leaves many catch breeds capable of finding pretty decent. The July was fast. Need to be really fast if your gonna be be effectively efficient. This eliminates some catch breeds and brings others up for consideration.

The July was a bigger dog than the fox which allowed it to naturally overpower and overwhelm its victim with ease and authority.
I doubt we find any dogs as heavy as a lot of big boars are but size and structure of a dog that can give the natural ability to handle a big boar are out there in the form of a 2 different breeds.
Also with this category was the July was not torn apart or killed by its victim. Thus again is because of its size comparison and power compared to that of the fox. The July wasn't the smaller of the two. Maybe not by much but enough to be very effective.
This size in pig dog helps it to better control a big boar. The better the controle the less likely of getting injured. Notice the July wasn't the size of a small vicious terrier notably much smaller than the fox. Size matters when controlling. Also mentality has a little to play here in control. Need to control a big boar not man handle it and try to overpower it because the more you try to overpower and man handle the faster your stamina fades. So we are looking for a hard dog that defaults to holding with finess when boar permits. Speed is very very critical in this last area also. What does speed have to do with control and not taking punishment. Well speed has as much or more to do with this than all the rest combined in this category. Speed enables this dog to catch in the dogs terms and not the boars. It's not good to be caught on the boars terms and the future pig dog needs to be bred in order to ensure the bad boars are efficiently caught with overwhelming speed so the boar can not make it from his bed or feeding area to the safety area which is the thickest nastiest crap around. Most times the pigs are started or found in the woods or feeding area if they happen to be different areas and only run to the thick crap when panicked or being pursued. The dogs ability to catch this panicked or fleeing pig is the dogs ability to catch on the dogs terms and is a HUGE safety aspect for the dog plus the less distance the pig runs the less woods, creeks, cliffs, distance, you have to cross or cover to get to the dog holding the big boar.

   So we got a hard catch dog that's very, fast really big, very powerful, good stamina, good nose but careful not to go overboard and become to good as a real long range cold nose catch dog is a danger to itself do to exceptionally long hold times and heat exhaustion. Also our pig dog is fairly smart and learned to hold with finess and not constantly man handling the boar and trying to needlessly overpower it, just control it.
   So what does this pig dog like that is comparable that of the July fox dog.
Is it a breed of dog that already exists or does it need to be created?
   Two pure breeds already exist that perform this function and neither is even considered as a pig dog by this forum as a whole. Some know about them but as a whole most do not. That is the Wolfhound and the Great Dane. These great dogs have been pervertedly bred now for hundred plus years and are lacking a lot but true good ones still exist. Most problem with the dane today is speed. Suprisingly a good amount of stamina in a great dane but the speed isn't there now in most. . Nose of a.fane is usually very good. Hunt drive is usually good. Hardness various from as hard as any pit could ever be to bay dog hard.
   Size is good and sometimes to big. Livestock breaking needs to be considered. Hard danes will get interested in cattle and often take to them naturally but usually with some correction and direction can be solved easily in most.
Wolfhound take 2 years sometimes to mature and turn on. That's their biggest problem. Other is hunt drive varies a lot from one specimen to the other. Take 2 years to find out If you got a rockstar of a snowflake. The good ones are exceptional dogs for all around work. Fast, decent nose, great style and intelligence when holding, good prey drive, really good size and awsome power.
   Pits to small/short, That's thier biggest fault. Great uniform hardness, very quick to mature, very hard, decent athleticism, lack speed and size. Some pits hold good and try to hold clean while some are physio and want to mix it up. Overall the pit when crossing one if the pure breeds to I mentioned will help bring the hardness in the future pups more in line and more uniform throught the litter and it will carry a few generations down the line well. One very bad draw back to crossing to a pit is they retard the size so much which usually needs to be addressed and offset. Livestock breaking needs to be considered usually not much of an issue though.
Dogos, make a decent first cross but never seen it carry well into further generations like the pit. In my opinion if you breed to a dogo for so correction or uniformity you will be having to outcross again soon which to many outcrosses to one type makes years of breeding void because you have just totally changed the mentality, speed, size, nose etc to far to one side and need now to go way back the other way which makes the last outcross basically a soar point lol. ..so I recommend pits over dogo. Often pits have as good or more stamina than dogo too and their hardness is more uniform and as said tends to carry much further.
   Mastiffs, ok but why not go with a good dane. Some decent for mastiff athletic English mastiffs and bull mastiffs but getting close to to much bulk even with the really good ones. Their will be decent bulk from pit and dane blood.
Stags are great for speed and they usually make for a pretty clean and intelligence holding dog IF you cross catches on the ear. Huge chance your taking with crossing years of breeding and developing an all.around dog a stag because even a badass male stag that catches ear of a decent boar by himself might throw a few dogs that only catch on the leg or ass. Bad luck if you then keep this pup for yourself from the breeding. Never want to introduce crap that catches on leg and not the head to you line of effecient all around pig dog that's comparable the July as a fox dog. More faults to the stag outcross to consider is they produce danty features especially in the muzzle and head. Most don't have as good of stamina as you would think or want. You are retarding the nose and shortening your range. They have enourmous prey drive and will trash on almost everything except livestock. They don't follow.commamds very well but crosses are much better with commands.
   Bull terriers make good crosses for hardness same as pits. Don't no much about their nose though. Probably comparable to pit. The bull terrier will give good powerful structure to the head and jaw and will usually correct danty features as a result of having to much stag blood in your dog.
American bulldogs are a good choice to have some blood in there. They are usually hard and they give lot of bulk and usually don't throw as small of dogs as pits do in later breedings. Some have good stamina and some suck. Same with all these breeds, there are good and junk in all of them.
I've had some cane corso blood. Have mixed feelings about it. If you have a heavy hand you might want to stay away from a lot of that blood as they might not tolerate it as much as some other mastiff breeds. Some danes are same way. ..the really hard ones might make you crap your drawers if you get stupid with them and loose your respect for them. Most won't but some will.
   Other stuff like the really loos skin mastiffs from weird countries I'd just stay away from. If you have to have mastiff blood, English mastiff or bull mastiff is ok but must be offset with a speed dog blood usually.
   Boxer is a catch dog breed but I don't think they add much to the first cross the way a dane does.

   If a person will stay with and mix wolfhound, pit, dane blood together it will produce some very fine efficient dogs.
Other dogs of consideration to add in the mix a little is a stag(head dog only) and American bulldog. English or bull mastiff.
For everything you add your deleting something else. If you need stag blood because your lacking speed, it's better to breed a stag to a dane then breed the F1 cross into your line than doing a straight outcross to a stag and swinging so hard in that direction and diluting hardness or power or mentality or taken to much from the nose. If your wanting longer range dogs and faster dogs and you breed to a stag, you have not done any favors to yourself because no you have fast dogs that don't suit you because your wanting range and they just kinda walk by you. There is a dance to breeding such dogs that most will never get or comprehend. Can't just breed stag and pit together and assume you have dogs that are top notch.
   If a person wants to create pig dogs that they can then compare to the July as a fox dog, you yourself have to be a little uncommon. If bay dogs is where your heart is, breed bays but know what they are as a bay pig dog will never Run to Catch or be comparable to anything that is