I didn’t mean to sound like I had the greatest or only in my old dogs. Just an example of they do exist because I know there are other people that have these type. Most every catch dog that I read about that is a stand out has these qualities I spoke of. I hope more of these types get bred to each other. It seems like most people I talk to have trouble finding good bulldogs just like me.
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T-dog your right about breeding dogs like the ones you had, I was asked by a guy several years ago why I hadn’t try to develop a line of catch dogs yet, at the time my response was I didn’t want to overload my plate I was still trying to get a type set in my bay dogs and to be quite honest I didn’t know where to find the type of bulldogs I wanted to start a base with, we had a few experiments we tried off of some good dogs but they didn’t reproduce worth a flip, I hunted with a fella last year that had catch dogs that were better disciplined than most marines and better manners than an English gentleman, luckily a few months ago he sent his old brood gyp which is the mother and grandmother to most of what he catches with to us, one of my closest friends has an old male that has caught some STUDS in his day and most were by himself, he has the catching style and smarts about him as you describe but his discipline and handle isn’t there and a lot of that is bc there wasn’t a good foundation in discipline formed and maintained at an early age, the few guys who put the dogs together that this old male is out of unintentionally made some good crosses that we are able to start trying to develop a family line, I have a son off the old male and a granddaughter off him and she’s also a granddaughter to the old males littermate sister as well, both the young male and the female have a head full of sense with some to spare, my female is exceptionally smart and learns things and figures out thing fast, we’ve got the concoction and catalyst to create some really nice catch dogs (hypothetically speaking), as long as the good lord willing and the creek don’t rise.....
A little food for thought, looking back at the catchdog post and just from general observations through the years, it seems like a lot of the better catch dogs and lines of successful catchdogs, on average are Rednose, looking back on game dog history, again based off averages, the rednose dogs weren’t as popular in the game dog world, I know there are plenty of exceptions that can be thrown out there, and some really great fast lane pit dogs that are red nose, but they weren’t reproduced in mass like other known lines, and also the really good ones were held tight to their owners yards, the breeders of the old family red nose dogs had different standards they bred for, especially the purist of breeders, over time in catch dog work at least it seems as if the cream has risen to the top looking across the board at what type of bulldogs most folks successfully catch with ( excluding anything other than Apbt and their close crosses)...
