Done it for 20+ years without a shock collar. Put time into your pups. Let them bay everything when they’re young and when it’s time for business show them hogs with your older dogs and they should be smart enough to figure it out. Time and exposure.
Sometimes E Collars have their place, but handle and a stern voice work for me.
That's right. While I use a shock collar I always figured if your good enough to break a dog off with one, you are good enough to break one off without one. Went years without one.