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« on: May 24, 2010, 04:27:03 pm »

Once a dog is dog aggressive can it be straightened out? Had a pit get dumped and I have worked for months to get to trust me. It kept just sitting by the road waiting for his previous owner to come back. Then another dog got dumped that was even bigger. I thought I might see how they do as catch dogs. But they killed my bay dog that runs lose and my step-mom's Jack Russel. The two new dogs hang out together just fine and they are very friendly with people. I was taking my son to a birthday party when I got the call that my dog was dead. I dropped my son off and called my wife to pick him up from the party. I had every intention of removing the problems. But on the way I wondered if there was any hope for the dogs. I know the humane society would have put them down on first site. But they are good looking dogs. I put them in a kennel to protect all the yard dogs. Can they change or should I just do what the coward that dumped them should have done?
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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2010, 04:41:59 pm »

they wouldnt eat anymore of my feed...

 if they killed 2 dogs already they will do it again.
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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2010, 04:46:57 pm »

I agree.  Too many non-agressive dogs out there to put up with much BS in my opinion..
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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2010, 05:38:02 pm »

Cull them both and start over.
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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2010, 05:41:12 pm »

it aint worth the trouble or the feed, cull em before they decide to tag team on something other than dogs....
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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2010, 05:42:58 pm »

That is what I thought. I just did not want to react emotionally. I really liked the bay dog they killed.
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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2010, 06:45:26 pm »

 i had a gyp that was the same way and a guy said he would take her. its a marvelous thing of electro shock theropy. he put her with another dog that liked fighting too with shock collars and a cattle prod and when they strated fighting he would hit them with the collar and then prod. took 2 days to break them and neither 1 of them would look cross eyed at another dog
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« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2010, 08:03:00 pm »

They got dumped for a reason. Cull them and not think twice.
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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2010, 08:13:04 pm »

I was thinking about making them an Aussie style team before this happened. They run two dogs that find and catch. But I just can't have them around my other dogs. They killed the bay dog in front of the kennel my other dogs were in. When I got there they walked by the kennel and my Cat wanted to go through the chain link. It was his buddy they killed. My other dogs work together. You can't mess with just one. But I had the one running lose with his backup locked in the kennel. I am really pissed off they killed my dog but do not want to react in anger.

Someone too much of a chickensh!t just dumped the problem on someone else. I thought they just got too big so they drove them out in the country. But now I got two dead dogs and one we are trying to save! I wish I knew who dumped the dogs!
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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2010, 08:49:52 pm »

Fellas... some of y'all need to remember who all reads these forums and re-word yall's replies. Wink

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« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2010, 09:24:42 pm »

When two pits show up at you house... that you have no history with... why would leave them running loose with other dogs? That is kind of a recipe for disaster IMO. Hindsight is 20/20 but there are things that could have been done in a controlled setting to see if they were dog agressive pre all this other stuff. I think alot of good dogs would get into trouble with that lack of structure.

Once a dog is dog aggressive can it be straightened out?
Yes and No... but based on your history with these two its probably best you get rid of them.
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« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2010, 09:47:41 pm »

With a young kid in the house and two unknown pits who attacked a killed one of your dogs, the answer is simple.  Get rid of them.  Call the pound. 

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« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2010, 10:30:58 pm »

I did not leave them running loose. They were dumped and staying on a corner of the property. I was trying to get them to trust me but I had not caught them yet. Only one is a pit the other is a lab. But after they killed the dogs I just got a pistol and two collars and leashes. Because I was not sure how they would react. But they were never aggressive towards any person. I only saw dog aggression when it was too late. I was able to get collars on them and drag them in a kennel without harming either one. We have had many dogs dumped and this is the first real problem we have had. Most just do not fit well in a small yard and get dumped by people who can't handle them. The only aggressive dogs are normally aggressive right away and they are taken care of right away. Animal control will just kill the dogs so I give them a chance.
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« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2010, 02:34:48 am »

I got rid of a bulldog that got in the habit of fighting.  The final straw was 2 am and he is fighting another dog that is a finished dog.  I broke them apart and he just wanted to keep fighting.  As soon as he would get loose he would make a b-line for a dog and fight.  My thinking was if my son was playing with a dog and he got loose and went at that dog, my son would be right in the middle of it.  I loaded him up and problem solved.  It's not worth having it in the back of your mind worrying if they get a hold of something.
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« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2010, 09:42:28 am »

There is imo ONCE chance, redirect their aggression to the prey. But still you most surely would not be able to trust these dogs around other dogs totally.

Show them what is okay to "fight" and what NOT.
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Put a good size boar in a pen, the other dogs next to the pen, if they ( One by one) Show agression towards the other dogs, let them understand that this you do NOT wanna see one more time, and throw them in the pen immediately. IF good, praise.

Simple learning, even a unsocialised pup would understand this.
Continue some times with this..if they do not understandquite fast in few times,  forget it.
That there is 2 dogs together makes it all worse, they feel stronger together, do this test one by one, so they do not feel the back up of the other dogs. If you are lucky maybe one of them show a little brain. Good luck!
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« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2010, 11:28:49 am »

chain em up and give them a job(catch dogs) then see what they do. ive seen many many dogs that would fight until they got a job. you cant have a dog that doesnt have a job they just go through life aimlessly and cause problems. put them on a good size hog with some fight see what they do
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« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2010, 12:13:45 pm »

I think it was because a dog was in heat. But they were trying to kill every male around. I buried too many dogs. I put them in a kennel and they busted out. It was just too dangerous for the other dogs. It just really sucked. I am much more humane than the Humane Society and I tried to find a way to save them. They nice to people but way to big to be inside dogs and too dangerous to other dogs. They even attacked a dog through a fence. That one is still at the vet and we hope it lives. I am very upset about the whole situation. I was in a no-win situation. We get lots of dogs dumped. Most are just too wild for a neighborhood but do well with room to run. If we could know why they were dumped we could prevent bad situations. But instead they just dump problems and leave us to deal with some unknown problem. In this case it was a can of worms they dumped on us.
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« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2010, 12:59:27 pm »

I had that prob when i got my ab. he jumped on one of my bay dogs. After a little come to jesus meeting and a few hunts his agression went away. My other dogs can walk up and eat out of his bowl and he will look the other way. It took alot of whoopin but it worked. And when i say whoopin i dont mean that i beat him.
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« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2010, 01:05:31 pm »

At least they got dumped at your house instead in the hands of young inexperienced people.
I agree with the comments abbout work, these dogs need to work, if not they use their energy negative. Compensates.

Let them run 5 miles every day in high tempo, let them focus on hogs. With some it helps.
The fight between fence is a sign that these dogs really are frustrated, need to have a mission, if you can not give them, better to end it.

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« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2010, 10:33:29 pm »

Save dog food & cull! JMO 
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