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« on: November 12, 2011, 08:40:27 pm » |
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Ever since these new hog hunting shows have been on TV almost every episode I hear of hogs that chase mama cows off and will kill and eat the baby calf. Maybe I'm missing something but I've worked with cattle since I could walk. I've never seen a mama cow back down from anything when it come to a newborn. Heck I've seen a whole herd band together to run off predators. Is this all for show or am I missing something? Just wondering.
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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2011, 08:43:38 pm » |
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Seen them eat on a cow once it is dead and then the worst place to catch a hog is in a dead cow pit at a dairy. Yuck
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Jared H.
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2011, 08:45:36 pm » |
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Yeah I figure they will eat anything once its dead but I just can't picture em actually killing a cow or calf just to eat it.
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2011, 08:50:39 pm » |
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Maybe there is some new pansie breed of cow  I ain't believing that one. They might try but I don't see it happening. |
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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2011, 08:54:10 pm » |
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Seeing how hogs are omnivours just as we are. I thnk it would depend on current food supply n age of calf. Very slight chance, but mayb if its a day old calf n food was scarse, then they just might kill it if there are enough hogs. If we as humans get hungry enough, history has proven we will kill and eat our own kind. Survivalbility of the fitest. Doutfull, but would not say no in 100% confidence
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2011, 09:26:31 pm » |
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Calf died or was born dead and hog started eating on it, but made for good tv to say "hog killed it"
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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2011, 10:14:16 pm » |
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Really young calves can be thee victim of and injured hog. Seen it happened once and heard of it three times by reliable sources
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Jared H.
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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2011, 10:21:40 pm » |
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Really young calves can be thee victim of and injured hog. Seen it happened once and heard of it three times by reliable sources
Was the hog killing it to eat or just killing it? How was the hog injured? |
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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2011, 11:12:01 pm » |
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Had a dislocated hip socket at the calf.
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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2011, 11:30:39 pm » |
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i've seen pigs kill and eat first time heifer calves.... only seen it once but we did lose about 5 till we figured out what was going on...
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« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2011, 11:14:13 am » |
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well ive heard of it, and not gonna say no either.
more of a reason to keep hog hunting legal maybe PETA should should watch hogdoggers
and see the calfs dead and the ranchers crops and farm lands destroyed, and then maybe they'd question there UN-EDUCATED THEORYS!
JMO
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« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2011, 11:18:55 am » |
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iv heard of it never seen it before but i figure its just so they can keep puting the hunting shows on tv.
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« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2011, 06:06:11 pm » |
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i remember someone posted a picture of a baby deer that someone came up on two hogs killing it
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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2011, 06:21:14 pm » |
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Yeah that was kitty and piggy hunter last year
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« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2011, 07:36:01 am » |
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When I first got into hoghunting with dogs, I bought some real hogdogs from a friend near Canton,Tx. This guy told about catching a hog that at that time (About 1996) was the second largest hog in the world caught alive with dogs. He had the certificate to verify this. They had the hog weighed and measured by a certified trophyologist and that's where the certificate was from. Well I didn't even know they kept records on hogs, but then a neighbor shot a hog and said it was a state record of some kind. Anyway this hoghunter had caught this 510 lb hog after some cattlemen around Canton told them they were losing baby calves and all they could find around the dead calf were hog tracks. They caught this hog in a 50 acre plot of woods surrounded by open pastures. I have no reason not to believe what they told me. This hog killed several of their dogs that day and a couple more died later.
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Jared H.
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« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2011, 07:41:40 am » |
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There no doubt that a hog would eat a calf if it was dead but I just can't believe the claims of ranchers losing 15 to 20 baby calves a year from hogs. Maybe its a different breed of cow that what I grew up with.
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Jeremiah 16:16
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« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2011, 08:32:56 am » |
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How does one become a certified trophyologist? It happens.....but very rarely in my experience from both sides of the picture.....being raised up hog hunting and on a cow/calf ranching operation. But you know how silly people are. They like to sensationalize things to make it sound better. Hungry buzzards kill more calves than hogs do in my opinion. I figure its allot like the buzzard deal....... where a hungy or injured hog starts out eating calves that were born dead trying to survive. Then they might move on to live calves, even then a healthy calve born to an experienced momma cow is at very little danger from any hog. There is a long list of things that can negatively affect a calf crop and hogs dont even come close to being one of them I can say this, I've been around hog hunters and cattlemen all my life and have never personally seen a hog that was killing and eating calves. AND I have only ever heard of one legtimate claim of hogs killing and eating calves, and that was a big, old, crippled boar that my dad killed for another cow man. Waylon |
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« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2011, 10:00:46 am » |
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I have no pictures to prove it, but a few years back I had a heifer have a calf one afternoon. I did see it up and follow the heifer off. Next morning I found it dead, shreaded to pieces with hog tracks all around. I figure the hogs came up on it bedded down with the heifer off grazing and had a meal.
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« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2011, 05:56:32 pm » |
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We were losing some calves that were out of heifers a few yrs back, my grandpa said hogs were killing them. I didnt believe him till i went out there with a spotlight a couple nights later, and saw a heifer walking with a brand new calf behind her an a boar that weighed about 250 following just a couple feet behind. I cant say for sure but i shot the boar and we stopped losing calves.
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« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2011, 06:56:28 pm » |
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Only place it happens on it on A and E, most everyhog wild and tame i have ever seen will eat a dead anything, i seen wildhogs come up and eat a calf we had to pull that was doa and have seen a cow with its rear end eatten out but was dead died calving, no doubt a hog will hang around if it knows a meal is coming, if it was true hogs kill cows there would be videos of it and not a cow left in tecksus!! Jerry Campbell is just steching the truth like the prmo he was a texas ranger a and e had out and is now debunked, I could maybee see a hog hanging around a afterbirth for meal and 1 in a 1000 kill a sick newborn that had not stood up yet with a idiot new heifer or something, it dont happen like they want to make ya beleive for sure, you asked if a hog could kill a cow, i saw no, not never, sick newborn or born dead calf yes
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