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« Reply #40 on: December 02, 2011, 01:51:22 pm » |
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And unfortunately I can't find the .27 ivomec anymore. And revivalanimal com has pretty much everything you could think of.
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« Reply #41 on: December 02, 2011, 09:18:05 pm » |
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U can give it to adult dogs that are positive for heartworms n after a year they will b heartworm free. Proven. I've been searching for documented proof of what you just mentioned for years of which I have found absolutely none. Can you point me in the direction of the data you are referring to? I guess I forgot to write articles on it n to add Dr in front of my name. I have done it on my own dogs. That was proof enough for me. FYI:: everything I posted on here I have been doing for over 15 years. My vet also told me it was all good. I raised several champion AKC dogs and used all these methods on them. Hell we have a poodle that's 18 years old n he's heartworm neg (only got ivomec 1/10 th cc month) and only wormed with my personal routine schedule. I even performed a surgery on him at my house with my vet on the phone telling me what to do. He's still running around. Deaf but good. If u don't want to take my advice then fine. If someone on here wants to save some money n not run to a vet every time their dogs farts, n they ask for advice, then u need to keep ur mouth shut if u have none to offer. By the way, where is ur proof my advice don't work? |
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« Reply #42 on: December 02, 2011, 09:26:04 pm » |
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Ivomec stops new heartworms from producing which then does not reinfect the heart. The present adult heartworms then die with no reinfestation. Dog is now heartworm negative. As for the worms dying n then causing death it is possible but it is also possible it happens when u take ur heartworm positive dog to vet n he gives it "treatment" to kill heartworms. Actually more likely then.
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« Reply #43 on: December 03, 2011, 08:07:54 am » |
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Keep your kennel clean, treat with the CHEAP ivomec and CHEAP goat wormer and you should be fine. Just like going to walmart and buying a bottle of bayer tree and shrub insect killer 19.95 a quart. It will treat over 900 dogs. use 1/2 cc on base of tail and 1/2 cc between shoulder blades and your problems are solved. It has the same ingredient imidacloprid in it for killing flees and ticks. It is the same thing they use to make advantage flea and tick with, but it wont cost you 35 bucks or so plus it will last you years. I also treat the ground and the beds. But do what you want. I just know my dogs are health, fat as a hog and tickless....  |
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« Reply #44 on: December 03, 2011, 04:30:32 pm » |
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Thanx Mike. I'm gonna try it. Haven't heard of that.
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« Reply #45 on: December 03, 2011, 06:07:21 pm » |
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Chances are you aren't killing or preventing heartworms with the Zimmectin Gold. If you are giving them enough to kill heartworms or larvae, you are taking a chance at overdosing your dog.
I'm no vet by any means, but I don't think ivermectin is necessary in 9 week old pups. It's my understanding that it takes around 6 months for a dog to get invested with larvae and for those larvae to mature into heart worms. I don't give ivermectin to pups until they are 6 months old. Panacur & Strongid should take care of any puppy worms.
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« Reply #46 on: December 04, 2011, 10:08:42 am » |
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Chances are you aren't killing or preventing heartworms with the Zimmectin Gold. If you are giving them enough to kill heartworms or larvae, you are taking a chance at overdosing your dog.
I'm no vet by any means, but I don't think ivermectin is necessary in 9 week old pups. It's my understanding that it takes around 6 months for a dog to get invested with larvae and for those larvae to mature into heart worms. I don't give ivermectin to pups until they are 6 months old. Panacur & Strongid should take care of any puppy worms.
Strongid does not kill hookworms. Yes sir I believe it does. http://www.vetinfo.com/canine-strongid-t.html |
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« Reply #47 on: December 04, 2011, 12:32:53 pm » |
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I had a litter of pups year before last that I had been dosing with Strongid T since 2 weeks. The 2 that I kept were given doses of Strongid T every 2 weeks but they kept going down hill. I took them to another vet (cheaper vet) they were infested with hook worms, so say what you will Strongid T did not prevent or take care of the hook worm problem in my pups. Mixing Strongid T with a hookworm specific wormer will be sufficient, that is what I do with my pups until 6 months and then they get Ivomec monthly.
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« Reply #48 on: December 04, 2011, 11:44:55 pm » |
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I've done all my reading and have gotten many different answers. In yalls opinion is ivomectrin good for hook worms?
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« Reply #49 on: December 05, 2011, 12:41:33 am » |
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IMO it is not. Use safeguard for hook worms.
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« Reply #50 on: December 05, 2011, 10:37:49 am » |
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Ivomec stops new heartworms from producing which then does not reinfect the heart. The present adult heartworms then die with no reinfestation. Dog is now heartworm negative. As for the worms dying n then causing death it is possible but it is also possible it happens when u take ur heartworm positive dog to vet n he gives it "treatment" to kill heartworms. Actually more likely then.
Maybe you need to do a little more research on heartworms. The ivomec does not keep the adults from reproducing, it just kills the microfilaria. The microfilaria can not reinvest the heart without first traveling through a mosquito. Two of the stages of the heartworm must he completed in a mosquito. It is only after they have made it through these two stages that they can reenter the dog and migrate through the tissue into the bloodstream and eventually to the heart where they reach maturity. The approximate lifespan of an adult heartworm is two years. It is also possible to get a negative heartworm test on a dog that is truly heartworm positive. If the vet is using the microfilaria test and you have given the dog ivomec then the test will come back negative. By the way, where is ur proof my advice don't work? If you research what I just posted then you will find all of the proof you need to prove that your advice don't work. It is approximately 2 years, not 1 and this can happen even without treating the dog with ivomec. The key is keeping mosquitoes off of the dog. |
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« Reply #51 on: December 05, 2011, 10:45:06 am » |
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Hellbilly, how much Strongid T were you giving the pups? If you are not dosing with enough wormed to kill the worms then you are building resistance in the worms and basically making the Strongid T ineffective. I have rotated Strongid with Safeguard for many years and have never had any problems with worms.
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« Reply #52 on: December 05, 2011, 11:08:57 am » |
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tmatt, 100% correct. If someone on here wants to save some money n not run to a vet every time their dogs farts, n they ask for advice, then u need to keep ur mouth shut if u have none to offer. I offer no "advice" since "advice" is based on personal opinion. I have however posted PLENTY of factual data which I simply refuse to re-post on a weekly basis everytime someone shows up and doesn't first try the "Search" function at the top of this page. This information, along with mathematical dosing calculations and research references has all been previously posted for those that will look. You can take to the bank, that anything I take the time to post concerning canine health can be 100% factually substantiated. |
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« Reply #53 on: December 05, 2011, 02:21:22 pm » |
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I offer no "advice" since "advice" is based on personal opinion. I have however posted PLENTY of factual data which I simply refuse to re-post on a weekly basis everytime someone shows up and doesn't first try the "Search" function at the top of this page. This information, along with mathematical dosing calculations and research references has all been previously posted for those that will look. You can take to the bank, that anything I take the time to post concerning canine health can be 100% factually substantiated.
Thats a FACT BRYANT, and I am SORRY you too now been aggrivated by the HE said this and She said that B.S. Alot of folks giving FALSE advice on this forum, by those that are Too Lazy to Use the Search Engine on the Internet and the Information Super Highway. Its like being in a library but wont open up a book because its easier to say that "joe Blow" told me to do this, and then that way when I do it wrong, I can place the blame on that person and not take responsibility for my own stupid actions. |
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« Reply #54 on: December 05, 2011, 04:38:02 pm » |
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I offer no "advice" since "advice" is based on personal opinion. I have however posted PLENTY of factual data which I simply refuse to re-post on a weekly basis everytime someone shows up and doesn't first try the "Search" function at the top of this page. This information, along with mathematical dosing calculations and research references has all been previously posted for those that will look. You can take to the bank, that anything I take the time to post concerning canine health can be 100% factually substantiated.
Thats a FACT BRYANT, and I am SORRY you too now been aggrivated by the HE said this and She said that B.S. Alot of folks giving FALSE advice on this forum, by those that are Too Lazy to Use the Search Engine on the Internet and the Information Super Highway. Its like being in a library but wont open up a book because its easier to say that "joe Blow" told me to do this, and then that way when I do it wrong, I can place the blame on that person and not take responsibility for my own stupid actions. I did not mean to frustrate anyone by posting my question. I was simply looking for a wormer that was easier attainable then panacur....( did not know it was the same as safeguard) this I could have probably found out if I really dug. I guess that makes me lazy. Didn't know I needed to think twice before asking a question. |
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« Reply #55 on: December 05, 2011, 11:04:30 pm » |
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Thats a FACT BRYANT, and I am SORRY you too now been aggrivated by the HE said this and She said that B.S. Alot of folks giving FALSE advice on this forum, by those that are Too Lazy to Use the Search Engine on the Internet and the Information Super Highway. Its like being in a library but wont open up a book because its easier to say that "joe Blow" told me to do this, and then that way when I do it wrong, I can place the blame on that person and not take responsibility for my own stupid actions.
If you are giving out incorrect (FALSE) information then the shoe FIts, wear it, if it dont then dont get your feathers ruffled. Intestinal Parasites in Canines http://lswda.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=114Whipworms http://lswda.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=272Tape worms http://lswda.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=254Hook worms http://lswda.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=255Heart worms http://lswda.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=115More info on Ivomec http://lswda.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=177 |
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« Reply #56 on: December 06, 2011, 11:57:05 am » |
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Fair enough  , thanks for the info! |
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« Reply #58 on: December 07, 2011, 08:27:46 pm » |
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ivomec works great and will kill all internal paracits use 1cc per 100#
or u have 50# dog give it .50 cc
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