Why dont more people

[ninja]

a blue lacy is a cur dog, just like blackmouth cur, catahoula leopard cur, mountain cur, all cur dogs. 

[cantexduck]

  I think Steve has a GOOD point. Breeders have not CULLED enough. Just like any dog, you have pet breeders,backyard breeders,hunting breeders,and then the line of dogs that you will never here about that are true to the line. The same applys for just about every breed of dog you can think of.

[bghogdogtx]

Thanks guy for all yalls help.  Looks like i need to be sure that the pup comes from a working dog.  Which it did.  Just dont understand how a color of a dog can ruin what the dog was actualy bred for.  Thanks again

Brian

[TrueBlueLacys]

Yup, I'm glad you did your research Brian. It isn't a guarantee, even a grown dog doesn't come with that, but can look at the parents and other litters and see you have a solid foundation for that dog.

The color of a dog doesn't ruin what they were bred for. But if what you're breeding for is color, and you ignore working ability, temperament and conformation, you'll get junk. It'll be blue junk, and even in the trash pile you'll find a treasure every so often, but a hog hunter will be much happier going to a breeder with proven working lines.

And you really do need to dig into what they mean when a breeder says their dog works. Anyone can say their dog hunts hogs. But they should be able to show you multiple pictures of the dog in the woods, give you a description of their hunting style, tell you how often they get out, etc. A dedicated breeders won't be insulted by the questions, they should be more than happy to  share their dog's accomplishments with you.

[Wmwendler]

I would agrue that breeding for color has had a negative effect on the BMCs as well, not just catahoula and lacy dogs.  Dogs with yellow and black masks hung the moon as far as some peope are concerned and you can bet that "the look" gets priority when breeding allot of times, and ability takes a back seat.  They forgot all about the other colors they come in; brindle, black, black and tan, red ect.

Waylon 

[Circle C]

I would agrue that breeding for color has had a negative effect on the BMCs as well, not just catahoula and lacy dogs.  Dogs with yellow and black masks hung the moon as far as some peope are concerned and you can bet that "the look" gets priority when breeding allot of times, and ability takes a back seat.  They forgot all about the other colors they come in; brindle, black, black and tan, red ect.

Waylon 

Good point Waylon.

  I remember a couple years ago there was a discussion about red dogs. And the theory that red dogs are not popular, hence the ones that end up being bred are typically "special" dogs. That they get bred in spite of their popularity, so there is a better chance of them making a dog....   Definitely lots of different angles to look at things when color comes into play. I have often joked that a man could get rich taking yellow dogs and dying a black muzzle on them.

 

[bghogdogtx]

HAHA that funny

[dabutcher]

I would agrue that breeding for color has had a negative effect on the BMCs as well, not just catahoula and lacy dogs.  Dogs with yellow and black masks hung the moon as far as some peope are concerned and you can bet that "the look" gets priority when breeding allot of times, and ability takes a back seat.  They forgot all about the other colors they come in; brindle, black, black and tan, red ect.

Waylon 

im kinda partial to a nice brindle or black and tan dog.....

[Monteria]

I would agrue that breeding for color has had a negative effect on the BMCs as well, not just catahoula and lacy dogs.  Dogs with yellow and black masks hung the moon as far as some peope are concerned and you can bet that "the look" gets priority when breeding allot of times, and ability takes a back seat.  They forgot all about the other colors they come in; brindle, black, black and tan, red ect.

Waylon 

Though I am not nearly as experienced with BMC or Cats as I am with Lacys and Mutts, I made a comment a couple of weeks ago to a Cat breeder stating in essence that "I liked the fact that she had a majority solid color and B&T breeding stock instead of painted up dogs with blue eyes". When she asked why, I replied that with no basis for proving my opinion, I thought I had noticed that lines of Cat and BMC which produced a high number of off color (B&T, solid color or brindle) dogs also produced better working stock on average.

I was surprised that she agreed with me 100%. She said that when she built her yard, she purposely chose dogs from working lines that threw off color and even though she started with a lot of painted dogs, the end result is that her yard is dominated by solids and her pups are near 50/50 solid/painted.

All of that means not a hill of beans really but I thought it an interesting comparison to your comment.

Steve

[countrygun]

I have had the same line of cats for  8 years. Had 2 that worked ( they were colored up) line bred, culled hard for three generations. The original pair are gone now and my yard is full of black dogs from that original breeding