Lets roll some Dice ! 7-11

[TexasHogDogs]

Well after a struggle with myself I went and did it this wont be the first time I have ever went on gut feeling  .  Don't know if a cross like this has ever been done before but after seeing this Fla Cracker/Partin cur work and have now hunted him a few times .  Seen him stop a couple big boars and he gets out and hunts with my Horn dog bout all I could ask of him so far.  He is by no means a finished dog but from what I have seen it want take long hunting with my dogs .  He has the want to , to get out and hunt its just a matter of time thats plain to see and he will be finding his own hog.  What am after is the stopping power and the grittiness he possesses and his gene pool . I got dogs that find  hogs no problem that is not what I wanted from him he just needs to bring the stopping power and the gyp he was just bred to is a gooden .  She has the nose, the stamina, the wind , the hunt, gritty as hell, the want too and damn near smart as a human .  Very very quick , very fast and there is no end to her stamina and lungs from what I have seen never runs out of air will spin a hog till he is dizzy only been cut one time in her life  . Short ranged to Med .  Is she a headache sure she is she is a Lacy and me and her had a love hate relationship for a long long time but now she understands me and I understand her and am here to tell you she is a damn damn good one .  She is great at winding as well as put her nose on the ground and find one.  Short to Med range with some good stick .  I been trying for a while to find something like this Partin Fla Cur with the gene pool that has the punch to throw this stopping power and what they are known for .  The dog had to be bred a certain way to help insure he could throw his gene pool around  and this dog is a Daddy x Daughter breeding which condenses the gene pool even more which is even better and with the other 1/4 still being Partin dogs are Fla Curs.   So I guess we will see what happens .  I did this breeding off a pure gut feeling and instincts  If it clicks its Katy Bar The Damn Door gonna be some fast , quick Hog nut/ear spitting machines.  This is a full Hybred Vigor breeding Am rolling the dice lets hope it comes up a 7 are 11 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    Gonna be great are chit no in between ! 

[Rooster79]

If he survives long enough breed him back to his daughter. That will give you what you want.

[MrsLouisianaHogDog]

Nice!!! Should be good results! Good luck

[TexasHogDogs]

If he survives long enough breed him back to his daughter. That will give you what you want.

I sure plan on it later on .  Yeah that is also why I wanted to get him bred now you never know what is gonna happen to a dog is as ruff as he is .  I been running a good vest on him but you just never know.  I sure want to see him on a really big bad boar hog to see if he has the sense to back off and wait for help are if he is just gonna be suicidal .  I miss the opportunity a couple weeks ago on that big boar on the ledge that would have been his test for dang sure but he was off on his on hog.

[Rooster79]

It might take him a whippin or two by big boar but with age he will back off and work them with a little more sense

[cur-dog]

I have a really good friend who was a serious hog dogger for many years and he told me the best two dogs he ever put on the ground were half Florida cur half lacy.  There still are some good working lacy lines, and they can bring some good traits to a cross.

[TexasHogDogs]

Am telling yall this is a marriage made in heaven these two hog dogs.  What one does not have the other one does ,  They both come from very well bred workin lines and are completly family bred.  This was a gut feeling breeding.  I would bet there is going to be some short to med hunters Whoa dogs , find a hog , plenty of stopping power and catch what you can kind of dogs if  cant catch it get in its face and sling slober till somebody can get there.  This Bell dog is winding fool and also put your nose on the track find the end of it Lacy.  Almost as smart as a human only been cut one time in her life learned from it and has not happened again smart.  Bells daddy was a real hog stopping Whoa dog a big dog lots of power , her mother was little and mean as a rattle snake get in your face gritty. Bells daddy is the last son of Toms ole Sarge dog he was a great one a good good find dog there is no telling how many hogs Tom and this dog laid to rest,  he was the kind that would stop them back off bay them bitem in the ass if they tried to run but a Whao holdem dog till Tom got there with his 30/30 soon as the trigger was pulled this dog was like a Vacum on the hog  and with what the Partin dog can apply being very heavy bred Its gonna get nasty in the hog world . I just dont see how it can miss .  I cannot keep all these dogs I bred Whitey and those are all spoken for I will keep two myself the rest went to friends .  This liter here I will keep two give one are two to friends and sell whats left .  After this breeding is here wont be no more for some time .  Its a good chance for some one to get real damn lucky for a little of noting .

[Fixitlouie]

good luck, hopefully all pups healthy. let me/us know. I will be in the market. lost a strike from me being stooopid

from me...who else

[North Cedar Creek Ranch]

Good luck with em Jim, hope the turn out for ya.

[sportingdog]

.  This is a full Hybred Vigor breeding Am rolling the dice lets hope it comes up a 7 are 11 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    Gonna be great are chit no in between ! 

Hi THD , I really enjoy your post you guys have a great site here and is a credit to you all.
my question is where will you go after this breeding as you say this is for the hybred vigor but as a rule full cross breed's don't pass on after the first cross like the cock fighting breeders only breed cross bred for the pit but usually keep their lines pure.
will you use this as brood stock or if it clicks just breed the chit out of them?
I know its a tough question and there is not  really a right or wrong answer just wondering.

Jamie

[TexasHogDogs]

.  This is a full Hybred Vigor breeding Am rolling the dice lets hope it comes up a 7 are 11 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    Gonna be great are chit no in between ! 

Hi THD , I really enjoy your post you guys have a great site here and is a credit to you all.
my question is where will you go after this breeding as you say this is for the hybred vigor but as a rule full cross breed's don't pass on after the first cross like the cock fighting breeders only breed cross bred for the pit but usually keep their lines pure.
will you use this as brood stock or if it clicks just breed the chit out of them?
I know its a tough question and there is not  really a right or wrong answer just wondering.

Jamie

Hello , Well I got pups off of  Parin Fla dog to my Whitey gyp which the Whitey gyp is my main blood on the yard but I also got the Partin dog bred to Bell.  So I will have two liters of half bro and half sisters .  I will get what I keep up and test them out hope got high percentage of liter turn out if so then I will do a Half bro x Half sister breeding of these two liters .  I love the half bro x half sister breedings when I do this I Keep 50 % pure my Partin Fla male Cracker then a 1/4 Lacy my Bell bitch and a 1/4 my Whitey gyp which is the main blood on the yard so now if these do well I will then go straight back into the tightest of my main blood which is the Whitey type blood and tighten it all back up and not using the Partin blood as the main out  the Lacy blood as the small out of them LOL ahhahaahahahhaha.  You see when I bred the Partin dog to these bitches I used him as the main blood and the lacy as a out and the whitey as a out but now as I breed I begin to tighten up my main blood back on the Partin dog now using the Partin dog as the main out on my blood .

So at first the Partin dog is the main blood and as I work this blood it all boils down to I breed his blood back down and it all ends up as my main blood as the heavier blood and him as the out but when I started he was the main blood .  LOL

Now with all that said I will not forget about my Partin dog so I take one of them half sister x half bro females and take it back to my Partin dog that then puts the pups at 5/8's pure Partin Fla cur.

This is a mouth full to say all this .  But it ends up  I got my 50% Partin dogs with 1/4 Bell 1/4 Whitey out then I got my 5/8's Partin dogs with Lacy and Whitey out and then in the end I will take these Partin type dogs and breed into my main pure stuff I got here my bloodline and it all ends up with  my main blood as the dominating blood with the Partin dog the lacy gyp as a out and all this time I get to see what works best the Partin blood heavier are my blood heavier and adjust accordly !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whew  A lot to say about breeding dogs in a short story ahahhahahahahahah !   This is how you build a yard .

[TexasHogDogs]

You see during all this breeding there is noting over 5/8's pure there is a reason for this .   By doing it like this you keep your blood pure enuff on one side are the other "the Partin blood are my Blood " and what this does is it gives what you are using for the main blood either Partin are my Blood room to breath .  In other words not so tight that the dogs will suffer from it but tight nuff that these dogs if great dogs still can produce .

You noticed I did not make a Daddy x Daughter breeding to the Partin dog in all of this .  That does not mean I wont in the future but first am going to see how well this blood works with my blood in different Percentages before I go waste a breeding that tight 3/4.

All the breedings I talked about up there are perform ace type breedings but still hold enuff family blood from one side are the other that they can still produce when bred back to either side of the bloods.

If these bloodlines click like I think they will along the way making great dogs .  I will then do my heavier breedings like the 3/4 breedings and even the 7/8's breedings  and use as brood stock with the breedings proving themselves all the way threw from 50 percent to 5/8's to 3/4 even on to a 7/8's breeding I can make .

Its just a process the whole way threw.  Now if i do these first breedings and they do not turn out that good the 50 x 50 breedings do not work and I get good to great dogs  I will number 2 can it right off the bat and know not to go any further and then go a different way .  This saves you a bunch of time a bunch of number 2ty dogs and everything else its just a process of elimination all the way !

You see its the best of both sides crosses and family breeding the whole way threw !

[TexasHogDogs]

it suppose to read like this i was in a hurry.

Its just a process the whole way threw.  Now if i do these first breedings and they do not turn out that good the 50 x 50 breedings do not work I will chit can it right off the bat