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« on: August 11, 2009, 11:13:44 am » |
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Hunted one of my spots that was corn. Owner cut last week. Right off the bat, group of sows and shoats. Pulled out the gun and did work. 2 down. Went to the gate and dropped dogs. We could see 3 boar hogs 600-700 yards away feeding in the cut stubble. Started making our way towards them. Got stuck in a 4ft drop off. Somehow was able to get out. Thank you for 4 low. A new dog of mione that I am tring out winded the hog and took off. She was no more then 30 yards from the closest boar when he saw her and jetted. He then jumped right over a gyp of mine and headed for Mexico. Dogs stopped him 300 yards into a thicket then he broke again and lost the dogs. They came back 25-30 min later. When they hit the brush after him I put a round in one of the other boar hogs. No need to go check on that one. Raoded alittle while and made it to a pond. Saw a 150lb sow run up the pond dam. Cut out my gyp and new dog. Min later the sow was bayed. Cut out a pup of mine and Kung Pow. Killed that one. All in all a good hunt. Now the problem............ We could see the hogs before the dogs could wind them. The place is one big corn feild with a small strip of woods around it. I am sure I scattered alot of pigs when I shot from the start, but how do yall go about hunting an open spot like that? Would night be beter so the dogs can get to the hogs before they have the chance to get a jump start? I was told by a buddy that the area is known for running hogs-ie. dogged the heck out of.
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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2009, 11:44:03 am » |
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i know what ya mean ! it drives me crazy when your standing there looking at hogs and the dogs dont even know theyr there . i always try to ease up towards them from downwind .
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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2009, 12:26:44 pm » |
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Richard can tell you what I do when I see hogs in a field.
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cantexduck
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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2009, 12:34:38 pm » |
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Richard can tell you what I do when I see hogs in a field.
Mine are normal sized and not able to fit out of a window. 
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There's a coon, nevermind, thats Buster.
"So I pawned my lacy off to my girlfriend. That should teach her to meet men off match.com" Rich.
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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2009, 06:29:16 pm » |
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First thing you need to do is put that dam-n gun away! When I can see hogs that far away and the dogs haven't seen them I like to get up on the back of the truck and hold the dog's head, pointed in the direction of the hog... all the while talking to him, pumping him up... while all the while driving closer to the hog... Doesn't take many times of that to get one looking "long range" for hogs. Once they figure out the idea, I think dogs actually have better long range vision than people.
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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2009, 06:51:05 pm » |
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Its funny the difference in hunting styles. If I see hogs in a field, I wont dump my dogs on them. I will wait until they leave. I want my dogs to find them on there own. Im not saying I never have done it but it is a rare occasion.
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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2009, 06:55:02 pm » |
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I hunt alot of country like that up here in the fall, section wheat pastures with a little cover some where. I hunt those spots only at night, and I will only hunt them when I can get the wind right and there needs to be some wind, so the dogs can wind the hogs from a ways off and to cover the sound of the truck and the dogs. I will come in to a spot like that real slow and quiet with some long range casting dogs lose on the truck. I get just as close as I need to and kill the truck and send the dogs, I will hold a catch dog and some rough dogs on the truck. Soon as I hear a bark I send the rough dogs and drive closer if I need to with the catch dogs. If the strike dogs come back in with no track I will put them back on the box and drive them around the field on the down wind side. Being quite and usind dogs that will wind and/ or cast deep is the key for me. Catch dogs will have to be sent from long range asap, they don't hold long in the open.
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« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2009, 07:01:05 pm » |
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We hunt off horses its alot more quiet we rope the hogs trying to slip a cross the open...I have a few dogs that no when I go to sceaming that I see a hog they will come to me if they can here me.... But if I can get to him with a horse than I am going to break him down!!!
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« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2009, 07:04:06 pm » |
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I find that hogs run more when you spook them before you put the dogs on them. They may or may not run when encountering just dogs, but just about all hogs are scared and run from humans so no need spook the hogs. I like a hog to never know I'm there untill its too late be it truck noise or talking or whatever. Several times I have spotted a group of hogs in a pasture when driving into a place, stopped unloaded dogs, made all kinds of racket. By the time the dogs get collared the hogs are spooked and scatter and so do the dogs, running for the hills and never slow up. Most of the time if I see a group of hogs near where I am driving I will drive past and they think I'm just a farmer so they move off into the woods but never get spooked then I come back sneaky style on foot and the dogs bay them no problem.
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« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2009, 07:15:16 pm » |
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theres a guy in ga. hunts feilds at night off 4wheelers with a spotlight . dogs run with the 4wheeler until they smell or wind a hog. he has a couple of greyhound x american bulldogs that close the gap on the long distance ones.
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« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2009, 07:16:45 pm » |
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Posted by: Noah Insert Quote First thing you need to do is put that dam-n gun away! ,, lol i agree
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« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2009, 07:19:01 pm » |
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Its funny the difference in hunting styles. If I see hogs in a field, I wont dump my dogs on them. I will wait until they leave. I want my dogs to find them on there own. Im not saying I never have done it but it is a rare occasion.
I do the same thing when I'm training dogs, that's a great way to see what a dog will do with a track. But when I'm in "business mode"  , I like my dogs to be looking for them with their eyes as well as their nose.... saves a lot of running around smelling for a track, when a dog already has a mental picture of where the hog is, or is going... My Ellie dog could see a shoat running from a thousand yds, that dog had natural bi-nock-u-lar vision! 
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« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2009, 07:22:42 pm » |
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Cward......Got to watch out for those cracks on horse back. Most of the Grain fields around here that are in heavy land have 4 inch cracks 1-2 foot deep right now. I was fixing fence not too long ago and set my hammer down on the ground and could not find it when I went to get it again. I thought I was crazy loosing an 18 inch hammer with a red handle on black dirt but it was down in a crack had to reach down to my elbow to get it out.
A couple years ago, I think 06', we had a place that we recently sold it got very dry that year also, and had very deep cracks it was black land, heavy clay soil. Well came time to wean calves in the fall we had just had a decent rain but did'nt even start to close the cracks up but the ground was slicker than greased owl poopoo. You could'nt take a horse past a walk with out risking stepping in a crack. When we met the cowboys at the gate while they unloaded I was telliin the cowboys about the cracks so they would'nt find out the hard way, I told them take your time I'll keep the boss man occupied. They got the cows together and let the dogs bay for 15 mins. so the cows would settle then drove them to the lot at a slow walk. Had a few run offs but the dogs did thier job, that was about the only way we could have penned those cows that day.
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« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2009, 12:54:07 am » |
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We hunt alot of open farm fields at night, we spot light from the truck and when we see them we turn everything off unload the dogs and then put the spot light back on the hogs,sometimes they hear us but usually we are far enough away they never know, our dogs have learned to look and follow the spot light and see the hogs and after that its over. The hogs used to get spooked and out run the dogs or the dogs would go miles after them but now we have just a set of dogs for night time. We use stagds and curs to run them down and they can usually hold em but we have a couple of pits for backup cuz sometimes the dogs will split and catch two hogs or even three at once. There is nothin better than watchin a pair of stagds run down a big boar in a wheat field and stoppin him in his tracks.
In the daytime we always go past where we see them and walk the dogs in, get down wind and catch em everytime.
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« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2009, 01:39:15 am » |
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Leave it to Savoy to go hunting with HOG DOGS and ended up just shooting pigs  Congrats Bud...Make sure and hook me up with one of them boxer puppies  Richard can tell you what I do when I see hogs in a field.
Hell yeah, that was a sight to see.  Hauling a$$ through a pasture and seeing dogs going out the window...lol I'll have to say it was effective though 
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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2009, 08:08:29 am » |
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Simple solution...You need a "one-out" dog for those visual hogs.  I tried to introduce you a few weeks ago how a good one-out dog works. In fact, I still have the hog in the pen at my house.
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« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2009, 09:27:47 am » |
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I know Bryant is being sarcastic, but he is right. You need a dog that has the natural instinct to hit and hold a hog on the run and not just nip at its back legs. The dog still has to have a good nose in case he can't pull the boar up before it gets to the tree line. If a different dog is not a option then stop driving and walk the dogs as close as you can till they see the hog.
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« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2009, 10:35:20 am » |
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Paul, I dont have any dogs that I can cast for the most part. They will roll out with other dogs pretty well but not on their own. I am still looking for that dog that will roll out.........
Bryant, I didnt get to see that. I was busy tring to flush out that big boar.
Richard, We did catch one with the mutts. Next time I go I am going to come in on the other side and hit the gate and then drop dogs. That might work out better, mite even leave the gun at home.
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"So I pawned my lacy off to my girlfriend. That should teach her to meet men off match.com" Rich.
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