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« on: July 28, 2013, 11:49:56 pm » |
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I've been hunting a two dog pack due to pregnancy, bad hogs and rattlesnakes. Well hit the woods the fri morning after a call from a buddy with pigs Got there with max and hoss. Turned out by a tank and started heading towards the feeder. Max bayed up at one close. Never looked at the garmin but I'm guessing 150 because when I turned the corner I could see max in the face of a good boar about 150yds in the road on the tank dam. Let hoss go and about 15yds from him getting there, he broke. You hear max stop him,then quiet, gets to 225, stopped him again. Quiet, beep, yelp, quiet, moving again but slow....cut them off and max is cut on what I would call his front calf. Just a deep poke but enough to keep him off the leg. Hoss never got there. I dont have the time to wait for pups to grow up and I need to add another dog,but I'm not liking idea of two different bays when I'm hunting solo especially because my best female will be weening pups in a few weeks and she does that to me enough. However, shes not catchy and max will grab and stop a runner but he wont full out lock and hold when the bulldog gets there so i could use the dog power when they actually catch. I don't want a rcd catching out on a big hog when I'm 600 yds away. A "help dog" would work but I need the dog to find its own if and when the other dogs get knocked out of the race or are healing up. What would you add or try to add?I Need to make a decision quick so I can start the much dreaded hunt for a dog that fits...
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hillbilly
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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2013, 05:43:12 am » |
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Add another bulldog and try that first. You can add that to try while you are in the search for another baydog.
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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2013, 10:46:58 am » |
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To be honest, in my opinion the only person who can answer the question you are asking is YOU. sit down and look at all of your dogs, figure out exactly what it is that you are lacking and what you need to add to your pack, no one can answer your question exactly right for you because no one hunts with you and your dogs as much as you do...... what do you REALLY believe is going to help your pack catch more pork? answer that question for yourself then set out looknig for the dog to fit that position, don't jump as the first one you think will work, ask questions and going hunting with the dog....more than once if you aren't sure. Hope you see what im saying and this helps!
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2013, 01:40:58 pm » |
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If I was in ur shoes I would look for a dog about 1.5 years old that will bay will honor and gritty. If it will try to find a pig or at least acts like its trying to find something it would work. I would look for one that ranged about the same as what I had maybe a touch further. As far as breed that's up to u cause u know what u like. If hunted regular with decent dogs it will learn to find em. If a dog won't take a hot track after the bay breaks I don't need it cause it never will find one.
For the record all I run is rejects and they will find hogs. All of mine were basically described as above.
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2013, 02:22:53 pm » |
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Hillbilly- I need something that will help stick with a runner, and hopefully produce me hogs if/when the dogs get cut down again.
Justincorbell- you are very right and I have done some thinking and ive pushing towards something that works like my male but i want it to catch solid. whether to go with a younger dog that will run with the pack but might not be quite what i need in experience if he has to produce solo, or spend the money a older dog that may split bays but will find me pigs consistenly....its takes lots of time to fund and buy the right dog which I have but my pack needs it yesterday....lots of thinking to do.
Shotgun wg- that is something I am considering my only hesitation is whether or not the dog would be sure enough to get out solo, take a track the distance and start a pig if I get cutdown two weeks into owning him
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2013, 03:34:45 pm » |
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Add another bulldog and try that first. You can add that to try while you are in the search for another baydog.
Also not sure about leading two dog in and out by myself. Now if I could find one that would walk with me and not go till I have the command....that would be something I would jump all over no matter what my pack looked like |
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2013, 03:40:14 pm » |
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Add another bulldog and try that first. You can add that to try while you are in the search for another baydog.
Also not sure about leading two dog in and out by myself. Now if I could find one that would walk with me and not go till I have the command....that would be something I would jump all over no matter what my pack looked like You can train them but it takes a lot of time. If I am by myself I want two bulldogs I like two no matter what though |
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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2013, 05:57:39 pm » |
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I hear ya, I tried once before but couldn't get the particular dog to hold once she heard the bay
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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2013, 08:46:23 pm » |
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Here's the deal. U have 2 options. A dog that will definitely find his own hog but may split bay or a dog that will stay with others but in time could do it all.
If I was hunting alone I would want all my dogs together. Personally I would want all of mine to catch with the bull dog. If not I would want 2 bull dogs.
The question for u is which is worse? Not being able to run for a week or 2 maybe 3 while a dog heals or going in to a bay with 1 dog here and another over there. Knowing u can't get there. U could go buy the top dog in the country and it and ur current top dog get cut down 5 min into the first bay. They may hunt 10 years and never get hurt.
If the price isn't an issue how about a finished dog and a started dog. Then u could swap out finished dogs so if one got hurt u could use the other.
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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2013, 10:55:42 pm » |
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That's something I'll think about...but I'm more likely to pick one or the other, which will most likely be a younger "pack dog" like you desribed.and try and find a bulldog That will walk behind me in the lead clipped to my belt or ideally walk without one a lead but that's a long shot....dont want to lead two but if i lose my bulldog ill be in the same place again.hopefully it will be enough to make it till their pups are in the woods
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Man, I just hate the idea of going to the woods alone. I don't ever hunt without an extra set of hands. I just really would hate to have a dog get killed and think, if I woulda had an extra guy and bulldog with me would that've happened? Its also a pretty dangerous sport and anything crazy could happen. My 55 yr old dad got flipped by a big runnin russian last week with the dogs on its heals! Its a hard sport to do without all hands on deck!
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