would u breed this dog

[devildawg86]

Lets say u had two dogs 1male/1female, they can be whatever breed or cross u hunt. They hunt the way u like, look the way u like with good handle. The only question mark is the pedigree, u don't know what it is. Would u breed these to dogs? Why u would/would not breed.

[Amokabs]

If both dogs hunt like you like, i would breed em. Even better would be knowing whats in their background. So if you know how many generations back these dogs ancestors are real good hogdogs, that helps your chances of producing good hogdogs. Pedigrees can help you with that assessment.  But some folks breed paper and not necesarily dogs, thats where u get into trouble . Just my 02 worth

[bob]

If it's everything you want in both dogs then I would breed them , the way I was taught is breed the best to the best papers or no papers , those papers are always nice but they don't hunt the dog hunts jmo

[devildawg86]

Would u breed a separate line or introduce themm into your current line.

[Amokabs]

Some of these ol bulldoggers will give the best answer to that question, but in my simple mind, it depends on what YOU are planning for your yard. Which breeding would help your yard most? How tight are the dogs on your yard bred?   U could breed your best jam up male to the female you mentioned, then your best female to the male you mentioned, then you have tons of possibilities as far as your direction,,, but i look forward to some of the old bulldoggers, i'm kind of guessing around, those guys know the real formulas !

[TexasHogDogs]

Some of the best dogs are made that way threw out history best to best and not knowing their pedigree's.  If it was me and I had a yard already started of good dogs but I like these two said dogs but I didn't know how they were bred.  I would breed them together and keep these pups separate from my own yard of dogs until I could see what comes out of them .  Then if you get good dogs out of them and good percentages .  I might try one of my own dogs over one of the best ones and see how it clicks it gonan tell you real quick probably yes are no it ain't gonna work with your line are your yard of dogs you have already.

But I didn't know own many dogs you damn right I would breed best to best paper is made for whipping your ars till the dogs prove other wise and then you can still wipe your ars with it so really its just ars wipe as far as am concerned !

[hoghunter71409]

Lets say u had two dogs 1male/1female, they can be whatever breed or cross u hunt. They hunt the way u like, look the way u like with good handle. The only question mark is the pedigree, u don't know what it is. Would u breed these to dogs? Why u would/would not breed.

May I re-ask the question.  Let's say you had 2 dogs that hunt the way you like, good handle and all.  U know what they are out of.  Would you breed them?

Anytime you breed two dogs you are taking a chance.  Some, none, or all of the pups will make it.  But if you want some pups and you have two dogs you like, you are taking the same chance if you know the pedigree or not.  You can know the pedigree and think that gives you a better probability of making dogs the way you want them (and I think it does increase probability), but you still never know.

If I were you and I wanted pups and I thought I could place pups in hunting homes, I'd try it. 

[Bo Pugh]

If I needed some more young dogs I would breed them if they was the best to the best. I don't worry to much about papers and spots and colers as much as I do hog dogs. It's just as many culls in purebred as in crossed up dogs. Unless the dogs has been bred before you won't know until you try.

[Shotgun wg]

If I breed a dog it's gonna be the best I can get my hands on. If these 2 were them so be it. The base of every line of dogs out there had unknown pedigrees at some point.


Shotgun
Arkansas

[YELLOWBLACKMASK]

Extremely huge fan and believer in best to best....cull the rest.

Do the math on a huge litter of say 12 pups.   That's around 15 cents worth of cull medication to distribute out if it doesn't work.

Sling em and ring em. If its truly Best to Best cross.

[Bryant]

Would u breed a separate line or introduce themm into your current line.

If you have two dogs outside of your "line" that you are that impressed with, I would first question the "line".

Only time I would breed outside of my own line would be for a hybrid vigor (health) outcross.  Its my personal opinion that if your outcrossing a line for reasons of improvement, then you started with the wrong dogs.

If you don't have a "line" of dogs your breeding, then I wouldn't hesitate breeding two outstanding unknowns.  I would however expect there to be great diversity within the litter and would plan on keeping them all to sort through and see if I could find what I was looking for.  That's basically how all lines are begun. 

[devildawg86]

Could it be that these two dogs r freaks of nature as far as performance goes, or is mother nature a better breeder !  If this breeding produces above average to great dogs, would u use this cross strictly for breeding

[TexasHogDogs]

If it was me I would be very very careful about breeding my dogs into dogs of unknown origin.
A great performance dog from unknown origin  is one thing and a great Bloodstock dog is two different animals .  Just because a great performance dog is a great performance dog does not mean for a min he can produce and this is a great bred one much less one from unknown origins .

Those two dogs of unknown origins I would have to see a ton out of them and their offspring before I would feel comfortable about just going wild breeding into my line of dogs with them . If anything it would be very slowly with me crossing ever T and dotting every I because you can screw up your whole line of dogs with just a couple breedings of these dogs into your line.

For one thing if you got a strong strong line of dogs yourself you may breed one of these unknown origin dogs into your line and come out with great dogs and high percentage liters but a lot of times it is not what you think .  Your line if good nuff has over ridden these unknown origin dogs and because he is probably scatter bred as hell it refreshed a ton of your dogs gene pool with that first breeding it turned out good but at the same time those piss poor genes that the unknown origin dog has was planted into the pups sure they are great performance dogs but now you are dealing with great dogs with chitty gene pools and don't even know it if you don't know what you are doing are looking at.  Here you are thinking I got the bull by the horns man them pups turned out great so you breed them and the % are not as good as the first but ok .  Then you breed those pups back into your yard again and guess what all those piss poor gene have done taken over your gene pool and the bull has just stuck his horn deep in your ars with fish hooks on the end of them and you are left scratching your acking ars aksing what the hell happen .  You are saying damn man I bred all great performance dogs and that is correct u did but you also introduced piss poor gene pools at he same time the things you cannot see in the first two three liters them boom your out of business!!!!!!!!!!!!  Done been there seen that happen bro !

[Reuben]

if you don't know anything about the parents and grandparents I would look elsewhere for a start...or breed one to a known line of good dogs and then breed one of the best pups right back to that dog with the good background...

[devildawg86]

I appreciate all the responses and all have merit.  I would  breed them, cull hard for the traits i like from the male and female. I wouldn't want to destroy an established line with all the unknowns and i would keep the lines separate until it could stand on its own. I ask this questions because i have a 3 month old american  bulldog pup. I have a piece of the pedigree on the  sire,  but i have no clue on the female. The female i have looks nothing like her sire, which was my original bulldog. My female looks more of a standard ab, her sire was a hybrid(half johnson/half standard or perf.,) bulldog. Only time will tell. Is their a different breeding standard for a catch dog than other hog dogs?

[Shotgun wg]

In my opinion u are putting the cart way ahead of the horse at this point. I'm not trying to cut ya but until u know what these dogs have to offer u can't figure this.

Also breeding 2 dogs because that is the best u can get ur hands on and breeding into lines or breeding for a line is 2 different  critters.


Shotgun
Arkansas

[kerreydw]

Most definatly yes,if they hunt the way you want and preform with or out preform your dogs. Why would you not bread them there not bread to fight to the death