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Author Topic: What's better fast start pups or slow and steady?  (Read 2861 times)
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« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2015, 11:57:49 am »

Dallas 22 only you can answer that. But by you not keeping the dog gave me the fact that you didn't like the dog. Dogs are funny animals some you get right others you don't but if you don't give them a fare chance you will never know


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« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2015, 08:43:55 pm »

I want one to start early and not wait around. If it waits to long I'm going cull it I'm not going to sit around with my fingers crossed hoping it makes a good dog just because it's suppose to be bred right. The earlier they start the better cause their not going to be around forever might as well get the good out of them
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« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2015, 09:06:31 pm »

I'll take a slow starter. I got a 14 mnth old male lots would have gave to dirt. But my patience paid off, his full brother bayed immediately at 3 months, this pup. he ran off. I gave em time and he's still maturing of course. But at 14 months I drop him and he is carrying ups. All over the place, has struck in held several hogs. Been on 1.6 I think is farthest, races and stayed glued. Making a hand. But he was deff on slower end. He'll make a dog! And he's catahoula, solid black. Hah mike Bolen
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« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2015, 09:13:51 pm »

I don't have much patience myself but when you see it. Done deal. He'll I started my pup young in wood. He'd hunt hard, but would dry run. Guess at 11 months to a year that nose went from finding dog food to swine prints and it was on.!  Younger than a year, your just handing off let's say a good blooded dog off for cheap because it was slower.
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« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2015, 09:18:58 pm »

There was a 3 month spand to were I noticed the dog. Lots peep won't allow those 3 months.
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« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2015, 09:40:21 pm »

My opinion is that people's definitions of the two might not always be the same, I like naturals not super stars or slow and steady, when I was younger I never bred my own, I always got pups from friends and I culled a few of them to early, they weren't trash but didn't suit my style or the dogs I was hunting with at the time, the few I regret went to to make the guys who got them above average dogs, I like to see a pup make progress every times its hauled or messed with, I see things realistically and don't expect much until their a year or so old, by then I'll have them baying good and they'll know what a trail is, I've been fortunate enough over the last four years to raise several litters and been able to keep most of the litter and watched their progression, now this is just this particular family of dogs but I've noticed that the pups that start baying cows at an early age and are relentless with it have all took to hogs like a duck to water, then ones who never do much and go in and bay here and there and are lazy acting rarely make the cut, I wouldn't say the pups are fast starters or superstars but their just naturals and its makes my job so much easier getting them going on hogs, everything im hunting now with the exception of my new walker gyp was started and selected using the method I just rambled on about.
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« Reply #26 on: December 12, 2015, 06:56:21 am »

  How much exposure a pup gets often dictates how fast a pup will start. Naturally a pup that stays in a pen most of his life, normally will not start as fast as a pup that gets to run loose. There are always exceptions & everybody's expectations can be different. I like seeing my pups start early running a track & a pup that is 7 months & is not running would be a slow starter for me. That being said, I do not want to throw my pups in on a big hog that might hurt them before they are a year old, even tho they have the ability to trail hogs up at a much younger age. I want them mentally & physically able to handle a big hog. I like early starting dogs that show improvement every time you take them out. I am guilty of not having enough patience on a pup that I think is not progressing as I think it should be. Both kinds of dogs, slow & steady & faster starting dogs make good dogs as long as they keep showing improvement.
  In the video below, these are 4 1/2 month old pups that can trail a hog up & run the fire out of him but in no way would I take them to the woods yet.  I will start carrying them by the time they are 9 months & try to pick there hogs for them. That does not always work but that is what I try to do.

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