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« on: July 12, 2010, 06:54:32 pm » |
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I didn't wanna hijack chainrated's thread so I decided to start another one. How many of yall breed up woods hogs? I guess this comes from seeing so many big hogs on this site and so many non-believers out there, that anytime a hog is over 375lbs, or is big and has a list on him, people automatically think they were pen raised. I have seen people do it and have done it on occassion. Crossing some piney wood rooters over a hampshire produces good blood for future hogs in the woods and they'll kill a dog just a quick if not quicker. We have 8 blue listed hogs in the pen we bred from a hampshire boar and two black woods sows. I guess this is more geared towards big leases and private land for people who enjoy just hunting and not trying to kill off the population, but it does produce better hogs. By no means am i pointing this at anyone just trying to see if other people do it on the board.
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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2010, 06:58:54 pm » |
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I am certainly not opposed to good blooded hogs in the woods.
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2010, 07:07:37 pm » |
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Well if you wanna catch bigger hogs, loosen as many back ends as possible on them boars and put better blood out there...With the way pigs breed, a couple of good boars and sows and you will be well on ur way to some good blooded pigs all the woods 
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2010, 07:09:03 pm » |
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I kinda figure that there are enough tame hogs that get loose to keep the well bred population going. Turning a big tame boar loose would probably be cheaper than keeping and breeding wild hogs in a pen anyways.
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2010, 07:12:49 pm » |
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I kinda figure that there are enough tame hogs that get loose to keep the well bred population going. Turning a big tame boar loose would probably be cheaper than keeping and breeding wild hogs in a pen anyways.
well here in LA, we are lil more fortunate because we have quite a few leases that are big and very dog friendly. Most of them are geared towards deer dogs, but theres always a few hog hunters in the mix, and a couple who do both...I think the best results would be catch ur sows, bring a couple home, get em bred up, and release em before they have em, that way your odds of getting the blood dispersed is alot better.
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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2010, 07:19:20 pm » |
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I've done it a little, but it's costly to do it on an effective scale... One of the ranches I hunt, 10-15 yrs ago, brought a few Hamp boars in and dropped them in the cow pen... fed them every day until they got settled then opened the gates... With (substantial) regular feeding, the boars stayed there, the feral population came in.... and the rest is history!  The old man was basically "free ranging" hogs, using the feed to keep the hogs central for working. Eventually they stopped working the hogs and the genetics redispersed.... A lot of our hogs still show a full Hamp bar stripe... even 10+ years after any full bloods were around... I've seen both when it comes to big, mature domestic cross boars... Some are(what we refer to as "b!tch hogs"  ) and just stand and squeal like a shoat... the majority, however, usually leave us beat up and broken... Anyone that thinks a domestic cross hog is a pushover, needs to come hunt with me.... That added domestic muscle can inflict a lot of damage quickly...
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2010, 07:39:38 pm » |
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I've never done it, but I know a few people who used to. I'm glad they did and wish more people would start..
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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2010, 08:55:23 pm » |
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Well I wish someone would take thes these mulefooted pigs and cross them into the running hogs, after these mule feet get too much weight the hocks start breaking down and I think that would stop your runners that have any size, atleast slow them from going long distance races.
Thats my theory on how to fix the over polpulation problem, and to make my sorry dogs look better, !
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2010, 08:59:49 pm » |
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Well I wish someone would take thes these mulefooted pigs and cross them into the running hogs, after these mule feet get too much weight the hocks start breaking down and I think that would stop your runners that have any size, atleast slow them from going long distance races.
Thats a new one on me, I've never heard that Ugly Dog...Thats a pretty cool fact, I've never really messed with any mule footed hogs, much less ever caught one in the wild, that would sure be a trophy for me no matter a shoat or a big barr
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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2010, 09:05:11 pm » |
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If I can get my hands on them they go to the lease. If it is a pinky, listed, or jet black it goes to the woods!  I have barred a bunch this year and hope to keep them around to grow.
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I bred about 30 mule footed spanish hogs over about 2 years and turned them loose and never seen another one. They were some of the slowest growing hogs! I finally got tired of pouring the feed to them and let them all loose!
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I think they are not quick to grow as a showhog but not as slow as russian (IMO) thes pigs I have are 9-10 weeks an about 20lbs now. Each generation does better and I think they would do even better loose. My boars mature and sheilds grow Full about 3 years old. At least the last two I raised dis the same, CooterBrown is 3 & half now, and still getting thicker.
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It may not be all mule footed hogs but these sure set low in the pasterns, and can't imagine them making a long race. I also notice they seem to sink deeper in the mud then do the split foot?  maybe because a smaller surface, don't know but thats what get from having this herd aroundfor several years to observe and play with.
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I've turned out domestic boars to improve stock. I currently have three sows penned up with a domestic boar and plan on turning them all out before delivery. I just always enjoy upgrading the heard!
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I would love to see more mule-footed hogs in the woods. We have only ever caught a hand full. Shawn has one now we caught last year as a shoat. That sucker is still as mean as he was the day we caught him..
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I have done it a little in the past. I have also turned out a few listed boars in the "Runner" county I hunt. I have two mule footed boars that are going there also as soon as I get big yellow ear tags in them!
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