july hounds

[c.brian]

I was doing some thinking and was wondering about interducing some july hound in my pack does anyone have any I'm put on this

[t.wilbanks]

Clyde aint mouthy enough for you? 

[5150hogdogs]

I've got a buddy that swears crossing curs with them but only hunted with one that he had and he was ok idk to much other than that dog he had

[BobbyB]

Maybe he will chime in because LionandBoarHunter has July in his dogs.

[Reuben]

It would put some hunt and stick in the stock dogs. You just might pick a pup that has the desired qualities from both sides.

[dan]

My hog hunting partner also deer hunts with hounds.  They are a mixed breed line owned (good hounds bred to good hounds) for more than 40 years.  ONE of these hounds will take any track made by any animal.  Once he is put on a track he will run that track until he is found or the animal is killed.  

This is not a hog dog, but we have found a use for him.  He bawls every breath (very loud) and usually keeps a hog moving all day.  He bays way back from the hog.  The hog will bay by choice and when the dog doesn't put any pressure on it, will move again.  "Slow motion hog hunting"

We hunt on a very large public property and there are areas where dog hunting is not allowed.  We use this dog to run hogs or deer out of closed areas and into the dog hunting areas.  Then we catch the hound and put silent dogs on the hog when the hog is where we want him.  Sometimes it works and sometimes we have to go back and find him the next day.

We can put him on a track and go hunt somewhere else.  We track him from time to time to keep up with his "race".

If no hog tracks, he can be put on a deer just the same.  Then I go home.  I don't like hounds, but always ask if he is in the truck!!


My opinion about hound crosses:  When you cross a hound you never know until 2 years old if the dog will be silent or open.  I have had hound crosses, but their loud and constant voice out ran their track speed.  If they are silent there is nothing better for a trail dog.

[treeingratterrier]

If you realy like Julys and have interest in the history subscribe to Hunter Horns magazine, they are fox hounds and run heads up, the Julys were the wolf dog to be had down here in the sixites in south texas, Ore Cory wrote a really good description of the breed in south texas in his book, have you ever read anything of his, he was the full cry writer from my area who wrote dog talk and moved out to keep hunting with hounds, he was into Plotts out in Idaho when he passed away, he hunted on the ranch I am living on right now in the 50 and 60.s

[Reuben]

There was another line of wolf/coyote dogs that were super fast and gritty on a track that would catch and kill the game. I think the name of this strain was and probably still around. The name is croughgan hounds or something simular to that. At one time I was thinking about crossing some of that type with a cur.

[LionandBoarHunter]

There was another line of wolf/coyote dogs that were super fast and gritty on a track that would catch and kill the game. I think the name of this strain was and probably still around. The name is croughgan hounds or something simular to that. At one time I was thinking about crossing some of that type with a cur.

reuben it woudnt be the calhoun hound would it

[Reuben]

LionandBoarHunter,

The name sounded more like crowgun but it was spelled different. They were supposed to be very fast and rough. I am pretty sure they are around and someone probably still hunts them.

[c.brian]

Thanks for the replys I may just have to cross and see what happends

[goose]

there is a preacher that i hunt with a good bit and all he has is cur/july crosses that they have line bred over the years they are built more like hounds now that will flat foot run a hog all day have run several hogs to death with these dogs only they are fast as lightning but lack grit...another buddy of mine has some f1 july/cur cross that are fast on track give a good bit of mouth and have more grit he took a good bay pen dog and bred him to a real tight bred field trial july gyp that is a wild cat when turned loose on a coyote his two are massive dogs both pushing 80 plus lbs.

[treeingratterrier]

I think the spelling on the hounds is Crogan, i have seen and renenber  hunting with them, but they were not know for any different type of voice on track or trreing style but were a very popular type of Running Walker Hound as i remeber, i bet if you ordered couple of the Fox Hound magazine like hunters horn and the other one and ran a cheap add or just wrote in you will find somebody still raising the strain or maybe even the same family still going.  I still wanting to find some Birdsong hounds or Hudspeths that still have the bird songing cry on the track and can be picked out miles away when running game from a diffeenet say treeing hound pack sound.