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« on: March 28, 2011, 11:02:09 pm » |
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My question is simple, to all yall that have ever tried to sell a dog, have ya ever had a dog that would "not hunt for em" while they were on trial.. Now I am not talking about a puppy, a finished dog that you have been huntin for yrs, drop the tail gate and pick up the gps cause shes gone and aint comin back dog.. The only reason I had considered sellin the gyp is about a yr and a half ago she started to bark on track after the hog breaks or if the track is hot on a crossing hog. Well I sent her on a 1 week trial and the feller tells me he will know in 10 minutes if he wants her, well after 4 days I have to call him so he tells me he aint hunted her and he will tomorrow. So I give him 2 more days and he tells me she ranged out 400 yrds and came back, he turned her out again and she loaded right back up and that was it he had seen enough.. Well no problem I said, bring her back cuz I know what kind of dog she is and so does about 10 more guys that i hunt with. Now I hate to doubt a mans word but is it possible that he was just huntin the dog for free or did she just not hunt for him... I had bought the gyp 3 yrs ago and I didnt have this problem from my trial period so I was wondering if she just wont hunt with a specific person or maybe its a sign that I need to keep her ha ha.....
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Hoghunters do it deeper in the bush.
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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2011, 11:43:56 pm » |
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I don't know how it happens, but it does. Had it happen on two seperate occasions. I lent a friend one of my best dogs for a couple of weeks when he had some hunters come in and he didn't do much for him. I showed up and we went hunting didn't drop a dog off but the same ones he had been hunting and he hunted like a champ?
Other dog I sold two of them one being alot better than the other and low and behold the younger dog became a striking fool out of the box and the older dog would rather be in the box? Now I know he will break out of this but if I showed up with 2 of my dogs I know he would be different.
Don't know what makes them do this but I really feel that some dogs act differently when not in the same routine of things. Maybe anxiaty, or just them acting out when out of their element? Who knows but it happens.
All I know is that all dogs, and women will make a liar out of us. LOL JK gals.
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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2011, 06:39:11 am » |
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Hey HWK I am coming home today you want me to coame get her and hunt her for ya these 2 weeks?LOL Give me a call in a couple days
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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2011, 07:26:04 am » |
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I had a squirrel dog I gave away and the guy told me she wouldn't hunt. I already knew she would because I raised her and had been hunting with her for 2 years. I told him she would just have to get used to him. After almost a year he called me and said she was the best squirrel dog he'd ever had.
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Some people call it damage... I call it hog sign.
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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2011, 08:03:08 am » |
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It happens specially if you show your dogs attention and he doesn't. I sold 2 jam up dogs about 5 years ago for $2000 on trail for 2 weeks. The guy told me the same he would know the first night. HE called me the next day and said he wanted to bring them back. I said no problem. When the guy met me i asked him what did they do? He said well i took them hunting with my dogs but i let them out first and they left the truck went out 600 or so yards and struck a really good barr hog at night also! (I don't run mine at night much) I said so whats the problem? He said well when i showed up with my other 5 bay dogs and 2 catch dogs they came off the hog... I said man if you where fighting in the woods in the dark and 7 strangers came up on you in the dark what would you do.
My suggestion is some people know dogs and some don't. Another note if he would have just let his catch dogs run in it would have been over. Why hunt 15 dogs at a time. lol
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BIG BEN
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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2011, 08:30:32 am » |
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I havent had it happen to me, but have gotten a dog that wouldnt hunt for someone else and that dog hunted her heart out for me since the first time I took her to the woods.
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hunt em hard, give em no excuses, and cull harder!!!!! "Rather have a sister in a whore house than spots on a dog" "Pretty is as pretty does"- BigO
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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2011, 08:57:15 am » |
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so I was wondering if she just wont hunt with a specific person or maybe its a sign that I need to keep her ha ha..... Maybe both!......dogs are sometimes strange creatures, who knows what goes through their minds. I know that most of you guys can't tolerate a dog that opens any on a track, (that's how I wound up with my best dog now),.....but I kinda like it myself. If you like her that well, heck keep her.
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It's easy to judge the character of a man,....by how he treats those that can do nothing for him.
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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2011, 10:20:55 am » |
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Dogs know people if they dont trust them, they arent going to hunt for them. Thats part of the problem with trials, the dogs has to get to know you and trust you before they are gonna work their butt off for you. My father-in-law has a gyp that is 1 1/2 yrs old, one of his best dogs. We have been around her since she was a pup because she is outta one of my husbands dogs but she will not hunt for anyone but him. We take her hunting and she looks at us like "what?". He takes her hunting and she will strike a hog. My point being dogs know who they want to hunt for and it just takes time.
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« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2011, 10:37:09 am » |
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One of my catahoulas will get out of the box sniff the other dogs, if he likes them he gets out, if he doesnt he loads back up and acts like a jack wagon all day, he will be hunting good, but if a pup tries to play grab ass he stops walks back to the truck and loads up. Has embarrassed me alot.
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« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2011, 11:37:27 am » |
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Sometimes a 2 week or 1 week trial is not enough time for a dog to get accustomed to a new owner and new pack of dogs to hunt with. There are dogs that dont care and will hunt whether they are with their owner or not but some do. Thats why it is always best for the person buying the dog to go with the owner of the dog on a hunt. So you can see the dog in his or her environment/comfort zone.
We had bought a jam up dog who is the sire/grandsire of just about every dog in our yard, his name was Hank. We had bought him from the person who bred, raised and trained him. We had hunted many times with Hank and his owner, and we knew how good of a dog he was, the only reason we were able to buy him was because his owner came into some health problems and needed the money. He wanted Hank to go to someone close to him, but Hank did NOT perform 100% for about 3 months with us! We could tell he still wasnt sure about his new owners. He would not listen to our "get ahead" commands, was hesitant to load in the truck or trailor etc. We still caught hogs with him but he did not perform as good as with his previous owner. Then one day it was like he knew he was'nt going anywhere! He was a once in a life time type dog. I think 2 weeks is not enough time for a finished dog but then again 1 month is a long time for someone to have your dog on trial.
I always like to spend time with a dog before I work them, I feel it makes a big difference. I once sold a dog and he did not perform for the person, I gave him a 2 week trial on the dog also. He returned the dog, we gave him his money back and never tried to sell him again. I still own the dog and he will never leave my yard. He is a good dog, almost as good as his sire Hank. The point is, it takes time for a dog sometimes to get accustomed. Sometimes you just have to trust in the dog and give em time.
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« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2011, 11:44:15 am » |
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« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2011, 11:47:30 am » |
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I had a dog I bought from one of my buddies and he hunted good for me, but was always twice the dog when my buddy came with me. It was like he wanted to impress him. I knew what the dog would do and for the first 6 months I had him he wouldn't do a single thing for me.
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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2011, 10:09:11 pm » |
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Through the years I’ve owned several good dogs that wouldn’t hunt with a dog they didn’t like or know. I sold a dog once and the man said it wouldn’t hunt with his dogs, found out he took the dog out the same day and dumped him out without letting him get to know the dogs he was hunting with. I believe that you should let a new dog get to know the dogs it is going to run with.HUNT ‘UM UP!!!!
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« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2011, 10:20:54 pm » |
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I had a dog i raised that would not hunt for me sold him to a friend and he is his strike dog now .
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Feed them good hunt em hard. The best training can't make up for bad breeding.
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« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2011, 10:35:05 pm » |
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i got a jam up cur gyp that wont hunt for anybody else i sold her to a guy and he said she wouldnt hunt for him and she was a go getter from the start. i got her back and put her in the truck the first night and cought 4 hogs that she winded out the truck .
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« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2011, 10:44:36 pm » |
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I think sometimes people spend money that they dont have and it takes them a few days to realize it. Had a buddy sell a dog, took the guy hunt, dog struck two pigs (one off the dog box), then they guy took the dog on a two week trial. After a week or so the guy decides the dog doesnt hunt and brings him back.
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« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2011, 09:46:48 am » |
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I had a baypen dog that was like that to a point. She was one of the best around. Never looked out, had unbelieveable focus and bay like crazy. I sent her with some buddies of mine to a couple bayings that i couldn't make and they said she ran in and barked a couple times, and came back out, went back to bark again, and looked back, kept doing it. They said it was like she was looking for me. And these guys were at every practice or training i did with her and ran their dogs with me and her in competions, but she just wouldn't bay without me there?? Pretty crazy if you had ever seen her bay when i was around, you would be scratching your head wondering if this was the same dog Maver!ck
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"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the fowl of the air, over the cattle, over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth." That means wild hogs too
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