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« on: July 26, 2011, 05:53:30 am »

I have a 7 month old Kemmer with double dew claws. decided not to have removed due to the cost and that the claws dnt seem to make him walk any different. Anyways, now ive trimmed the dewclaws a few times but cant tell how short to cut, and there kinda long and looked like there gonna get hooked on stuff. The guy i got him from said i could cut almost the whole nail off but i wasnt sure if that was true and dnt want a bloody mess.

    
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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2011, 06:13:39 am »

leave them alone, that a good genetic sign. I have 8 in this litter. 6 with double dew claws 1 with 1 dew and 1 w/o. they will be fine. I have never had a problem.
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2011, 06:28:56 am »

old timers say thats a good sign   leave alone
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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2011, 09:37:44 am »

i am leaving alone but how do u trim the nail???

Just take the tip off like normail or cut a big hunk of like the guy i got him from said.

there just stayin long but they grow like a horseshoe like if i left it to long it would grow into itself. im just trying to see if i can cut it short so i dont have to do it so much cause he dnt like it very well.
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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2011, 09:38:49 am »

leave them alone, that a good genetic sign. I have 8 in this litter. 6 with double dew claws 1 with 1 dew and 1 w/o. they will be fine. I have never had a problem.


well he is a good dog been bayin and interested since six weeks old
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« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2011, 10:47:02 am »

okboarhunter, Did you check to see how much it cost to remove them? My vet charged me $13.00 per dog if it has 4 dew claws or $7.00
if it's just the front . It has to be done before they are 5 days old. I had one that hung a dew claw on some briars and it tore loose but not completely off. It got all infected and ended up costing a lot.  Now i bring the whole litter in and remove all dew claws.
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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2011, 01:18:11 pm »

If you get them before they are five days old you can do it with toenail clippers and it will be fine. Alot of people remove them for the very reason you just mentioned. Also, if you have them removed, it wont change the genetics, their pups (if you breed) will still have them.
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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2011, 01:27:10 pm »

toe nail clippers when they are less than a week old and it is free to remove them.. I leave all of my dogs dueclaws on them and havent had one complaint yet.  Grin I just noticed a black and tan Cat that i have has 2 dueclaws on one foot 5 total. I had a  old timmer tell me that double dueclaws is a throwback from the old foundation dogs. I do clip one of my dogs dueclaws just because she jumps up and will cut the crap out of you with them, just trim off about 1/8" to make it blunt
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« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2011, 02:12:06 pm »

my catahoula blood has it in there blood . when i get double dews i leave em on the dog , trim them just like any other nail , my old male would trim his hisself by chewing on them
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« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2011, 03:07:12 pm »

ok thx guys, ya ill just keepem trimmed like normal.

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« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2011, 03:56:09 pm »

Send a picture of the dog? I'd like to see it.  I had one also, and never seen one before him. 
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« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2011, 05:30:02 pm »

Heres some pics of one of my pups little mutant feet. My wife makes fun of her, but I think it adds character.



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« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2011, 09:15:44 pm »

When I was a kid, I remember seeing some hound crosses with 3 and 4 rear dew claws per leg. Petra has double dew claws and I was told it is a Ben trait. Bur hers are 2 basically in one sheath or the sheaths are Siamese and 2 claws, however you want to look at it.

her entire litter has the same Siamese double dew claws.

I asked a friend in OK who studies all things dog. This was her reply  " Double hind dews attest to an ancient heritage of Asian mountain dogs. Take a look at the Turkish Karabash (the name means "black face") and it's more refined incarnation, the Anatolian shepherd. "

She also said this " Double hind dewclaws are a must in Pyrenees, Akbash, Briads, and some other breeds. They are indicative of mountain dog lineage af ancient origins. Considering the black lip and eye skin of your BMCs, if some have the DHDs, I'd guess they carry that blood, also. It runs down from some of the most ancient and loyal of canines, the Turkish flock guardians. I wouldn't have a Pyr or Akbash without the DHD's. "

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" You can look at some of the other information about joint stability and front dewclaws, too, but since the DHDs are associated with surefootedness, I'd say choose one of those. For a bay dog, the effect should be a well dug in stand. "


The dug in stand was her way of saying the dog should be able to use it's hind legs well because I asked her to clarify.

Take it for what it's worth, but the oldtimers didnt say thing just for fun.
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« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2011, 09:48:02 pm »

dew claws are common in the mtn cur breeds. Double dew claws are not as common but have seen mtn curs with them.

Best time to cut off the dew claws is at 3 days old. Just clip them off with a pair of finger nail clippers.
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« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2011, 12:45:00 am »

my dogs have always had this trait in them i've got two pups right now with them and one without.i like em on a dog thats my preference.old stock dogs had em what i was always told.sure somebody will disagree with me .
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« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2011, 01:11:08 am »

here is the pic i was talking about Wink
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« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2011, 05:44:45 am »

SRY CANT POST PICS HERE AT WRK. I CAN SEND PICS TO SOMEONES PHONE OR EMAIL IF THEY WANNA POST
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« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2011, 06:23:45 pm »

I remove dew claws and dock the tails on my Brittanys. They dont have rear dew claws so I just have to do the front. 3 days is the time. My vet wont touch then if they are 4 days old. Thats why I started doing it myself.

Just a word of warning, if you decide to do it, and it is easy, be sure you have someone holding the pup so you can stretch the leg and snip as close to the leg itself as you can. If you botch it, a tiny bone point will stick thru the skin and as they get older, it will ooze.

I use a pair of small , but very sharp scissors to do it. They work the cleanest and quickest for me.
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