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« on: January 07, 2012, 12:49:55 pm » |
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I have been trying to move out of the burbs and found a place on the water. But there are gators around. I was just curious how many people live on the water where there are gators. Can a gator get in a kennel? I was thinking I may have to go with above ground kennels but wanted to know from people that live it.
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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2012, 12:55:06 pm » |
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Dub, I think it totally depends on the gators you're dealing with. If they have a good food source, they should stay by the water. Either way, just so you know, gators can and will climb chainlink like it is not even there. I almost bought land on a prairie like area. It had lakes and ponds all over it. They were infested with gators. I elected to pass, as I kept thinking about how much the dogs like to swim. In the Summer, they would have lived at the pond. Briefly anyway.  |
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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2012, 01:17:05 pm » |
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I could be wrong, but I couldn't see a gator climbing chainlink. Maybe a big gator over a short fence. I'd say your dog is safe in a kennel, but I've never tested that theory. Is be more worried about them going under.
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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2012, 01:33:28 pm » |
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I could be wrong, but I couldn't see a gator climbing chainlink. Maybe a big gator over a short fence. I'd say your dog is safe in a kennel, but I've never tested that theory. Is be more worried about them going under.
Gators climb chainlink fences around swimming pools all the time in Florida. Google something like "gator in pool". Read up. They can climb well. |
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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2012, 02:40:56 pm » |
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I bet they can climb it. Those claws would hold on real nice. It has bulkheads but there is a boat ramp. The water is brackish so it won't be too bad and it is not infested. I would be real mad if a gator got in a kennel. I will look into a gator proof fence just in case.
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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2012, 02:48:38 pm » |
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http://icwdm.org/handbook/reptiles/Alligators.aspThey have been documented climbing a five foot chain link fence. It also says the bulkheads will keep them in the water. Six foot kennel with roofs should be good.
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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2012, 05:05:40 pm » |
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What about one of your dogs gettin loose and goin down to the water for a drink or a swim u will have to keep the dogs in and the gators out
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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2012, 05:26:13 pm » |
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The house will have water with bulkheads on three sides that I will put docks with rails to keep kids safe. I only have to fence one side. I can make a gator proof fence to keep gators out and dogs in. I always have a fenced yard to keep dogs out of trouble. I can make a pond in the fenced area and keep it full. They will learn fast that if they get in the water they can't get out. They said they have not seen gators but I know they are just a couple miles away and if one decides to go for a walk.. I will have to trash break the digs off gators  Now watch the deal fall through  |
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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2012, 06:47:42 pm » |
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havin a place on the water would definitely be worth it. today, and lots of times I wonder if i should have kept looking till i found the place i wanted on Lake Livingston. one thing you may want to consider is the water conditions of the place if you plan on eating fish out of it. http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/regulations/fish_hunt/fish/consumption_bans.phtmlI have had people get seriously pissed off and hate me for telling them that rayburn was contaminated. i also know someone who died of blood cancer who ate tons of fish from rayburn, toledo bend, and the gulf coast. dam b, TB, and SR are all contaminated. so is the neches river. then again lots of stuff is contaminated these days including vegetables at the grocery store that are fertilized with toxic industrial waste. we are all gonna die, but i imagine i'm gonna be around a while so i'ma try and stay as whole as possible. is still want a place with access to lake livingston. maybe this year big things will happen. |
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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2012, 06:59:01 pm » |
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how do you guys hunt around those gators wont they eat a dog bayed or hunting thru the weeds. just wandering i didnt mean to jump in on your thread. hell id poop my self if come on one at night. glad their not any up here
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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2012, 07:06:05 pm » |
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build you a fence with 1/2 bars 4 inches apart 6 foot tall and i would think that would keep them out no toe holds and put spkes on the top
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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2012, 07:30:04 pm » |
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I don't hunt if gators are there. Some places they pass through and if one is seen don't hunt.
I don't plan to eat any fish caught there. But I am real close to the gulf. So I can keep a boat and go offshore to fish. Catch and release at the house.
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« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2012, 09:10:55 pm » |
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dub, we live on an Island in the swamp. The property is surrounded by a bayou and canals. Cypress swamp on two sides. There is also a 12 acre pond that is connected to these canals. I have my kennels on a slab right on the water. I have welded wire kennels made by Tarter and I built a roof over them. Alligators are not getting in. We have 3 cat curs and a pit bull. We do not let them out un supervised during the summer months when the gators are active. I should also mention that this is not a subdivision in the suburbs , This property is actually in the swamps in the middle of no where. Prime alligator habitat. The dogs can smell an alligator and raise hell when one swims near the kennels. On land I have caught the curs baying alligators and actually catching smaller ones. Curs and pits are too fast for an alligator on land. NOW dogs swimming in the water is an entirely different story. If a descent size gator grabs them while swimming, it,s all over. We don't let them swim in the pond and canals but they play in the shallow edges in chest deep water every day. We have only been raising dogs on this property for 4 years but so for so good. I hope I never have to get on here and post that a gator got one of my dogs right on my own yard.     |
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« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2012, 09:19:08 pm » |
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That last pic is scary.
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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2012, 09:25:40 pm » |
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The water is brackish and would be too salty most of the time like where I used to live. But when the heavy rains came some gators would show up. But we had bulkheads so never saw one on land. I am going to look at it Monday as long as things are like what is said and the water is at least six feet deep at low tide I will sign the deal.
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« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2012, 09:28:41 pm » |
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a good gator is a dead gator...
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« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2012, 09:34:17 pm » |
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a good gator is a dead gator...
That is the key to raising dogs in an environment where there is alligators. |
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« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2012, 09:53:10 pm » |
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a good gator is a dead gator...
That is the key to raising dogs in an environment where there is alligators. x2, a good rifle and drunk friends would help keep the problem down |
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« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2012, 10:00:22 pm » |
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If a gator is threatening your dog you can kill it. But not keep it. Unless it is gator season and you have a license. I guarantee if a gator is trying to get at my dogs I will not find out if it can get through. But I don't think it will be a big problem. I will build a new house that can get through a catagory five huricane and be dry inside too. This is my personal dream property and I hope things work out. But I have had people back out when you agree to everything they ask for. My wife said there had to be a mall within thirty minutes and there is. There is room for my dogs and a good size boat to go off shore. The house that is there now can be rented out or it can keep the mother-in-law from moving into my house in a few years Plus the mother-in-law will hate it so she may go to my sister-in-laws and leave us alone I can go find gators to take pictures of and tell her they were in the yard Oh my anti-social side is coming out. It is easier to love your neighbor when you don't have many |
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« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2012, 10:16:31 pm » |
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It is easier to love your neighbor when you don't have many
im gonna have to keep that as a quote |
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