Wmwendler
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« on: August 22, 2013, 02:33:22 pm » |
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I'm gonna try snaring hogs this deer season and I will target big boars. 200lbs+ I want to end up with something big enough to market. I will use leg hold snares like a freemont type foot snare, or a snare setup like the "hold a hog". I'll combine that with a heavy duty snare made for brown bear. Depending on what I find works the best. My approach will be to use sign post rubs as the bait. Either existing telephone pole rubs or I will set a railroad tie in the ground. I will keep them fresh with creosote(if I can find it), used motor oil, black gold ect., to keeps the boars coming in regular. In this way the bait will be their 24-7, and I don't have to worry about non target animals eating it. Deer don't rub on telephone poles so I wont encounter any accidental deer catches like I would with a trail set. My trap lines will be in mostly river bottom farm land so I can easily avoid cattle as well. I will come in when I get time or the weather and/or market is right and make my sets. I may even try some sow in heat when I set the snares. I'll set the snares around the rub..... front foot distance away from the pole. Hoping to catch the front foot. I am not sure if I will anchor the snare to the pole or attach it to a drag. If I anchor it to the pole I will most certainly have to use a spring to absorb impact when the hog lunges. I've pondered the idea of using an inner tube as a spring as well. The anchor would be short to also help minimize lunging. They sell springs for this purpose in trapping supply catalogs if the inner tube does not work. It seems that most of the bear trappers use drags. With a drag.....The hog might settle down more if he can pull the drag into the brush. But I might have to use a dog to locate him if he goes too far. Since my goal is to sell them, I have to keep them alive....... and loading him would be made more complicated with this method. The loading part seems like it will be the most complicated. I'm trying to think of ways to avoid needing help. Using two big catch dogs would work but then I'd have to tie the hog before I load him. Tying a big hog is usually a two man job. And I don't really want to feed two big catch dogs. I've thought about wooden crates, like they use in the John Wayne movie "hatari". Drop the crate near the hog. Somehow get a rope attached to the snare and get the snare unhooked from the pole, then winch the hog into the crate.
Any thoughts, suggestions, or criticisms are welcome. Which do yall think is better? Anchor to the pole or drag.....front foot or hind foot hold. Ideas on how to get the hog loaded. How to keep the snare from tearing up the hogs leg to the point where the buyer wont accept it. These are still some questions I've got bouncing around in my head. I'm confident I could snare at least 5 big hogs over 200lbs on each trap setting/night with around 20 snare sets on a trap line. I would most likely set them once a week I've got access to a lot of contiguous land which is the main factor that will make this worthwhile.
Waylon
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halfbreed
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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2013, 03:49:46 pm » |
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sounds interesting . I want to see the video of the loading part lol . but seriously i'd try for a back leg catch , then get a lasso around the head and drag it into the trailer . I know I handled a bunch of big hogs with a couple of catahoulas on the head and me on the back end lasso'd to a tree and jacked up in the air . it's do'able . but going solo it will be a rodeo . might think on a dart gun , catching that many hogs would pay for it's self in no time .
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Muddogkennels
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2013, 04:01:25 pm » |
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well leg wire snares will make a hog break his leg trying to get off , making a head snare for trails work just fine the 1/8 inch our bigger will help from hurting there's self.. I Think cam lock snares are the best out there because they are a no kill snare an the cam lock part are reusable after catching a big hog just replace the wire . now catching them when they are bigger then 200lb is easy said then done but invest in a snare pole an add 10foot of rope on the snare pole line an put the snare pole behind his teeth an pull away from your anchor snare so u can get behind him then u can hog tie him loose where he can stand an barley walk this will let u be able to walk him with the snare pole on him instead of dragging him saves your back trust me , set all trail with several snare on the same trail so u can catch more then one . go to snareshop,com they have 12 cam lock snares that are 8' by 1/8 ''wire for 23 dollars an 5 dozen fo 100 dollars they are the best company around an make every snare very good .. i was just buying the cam lock but it's cheaper buying them made.. these snare don't kill so no animal or dog will be hurt just leave room from other trees.. if there's other ? ask i check snares daily so there tricks an moon fazes that keep hogs traveling different trails during the week an game cams work really good to time the hogs an there's ways to direct them to a trail u want them to go down but thats learned after time.. oh deer stops are recommended to have on an each snare suppose to have a name tag on the anchored side well hope u catch some good ones...
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Wmwendler
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2013, 06:11:18 pm » |
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well leg wire snares will make a hog break his leg trying to get off , making a head snare for trails work just fine the 1/8 inch our bigger will help from hurting there's self.. I Think cam lock snares are the best out there because they are a no kill snare an the cam lock part are reusable after catching a big hog just replace the wire . now catching them when they are bigger then 200lb is easy said then done but invest in a snare pole an add 10foot of rope on the snare pole line an put the snare pole behind his teeth an pull away from your anchor snare so u can get behind him then u can hog tie him loose where he can stand an barley walk this will let u be able to walk him with the snare pole on him instead of dragging him saves your back trust me , set all trail with several snare on the same trail so u can catch more then one . go to snareshop,com they have 12 cam lock snares that are 8' by 1/8 ''wire for 23 dollars an 5 dozen fo 100 dollars they are the best company around an make every snare very good .. i was just buying the cam lock but it's cheaper buying them made.. these snare don't kill so no animal or dog will be hurt just leave room from other trees.. if there's other ? ask i check snares daily so there tricks an moon fazes that keep hogs traveling different trails during the week an game cams work really good to time the hogs an there's ways to direct them to a trail u want them to go down but thats learned after time.. oh deer stops are recommended to have on an each snare suppose to have a name tag on the anchored side well hope u catch some good ones...
Do you think a drag would keep them from breaking their leg?
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Muddogkennels
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2013, 06:20:24 pm » |
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no i'm not taking about a object for them to drag will break there leg but if its anchored to a solid tree, i have had them break there legs bud.
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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2013, 07:20:11 pm » |
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Depending on which leg is snared,i don't see why you couldn't use a lariat rope on the oppsite end/leg and stretch him out so someone can ease in their and flip him,would be a lot easier than the crate idea.
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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2013, 09:26:14 am » |
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I've done a good bit of trapping over the years. If at all possible, the front leg is a better catch. The animals are not able to pull as hard when held by the front leg. The bad part is i'm not sure how you'll be able to make your trap set to catch front legs only. The rub poles should work good but there's no way to know which way the hogs gonna walk up to it and rub. As far as getting them out. Fix you a long pole with a hook on the end. Use the hook to hold your loop on your rope. Loop there head and choke em down. Make sure if your by yourself to leave em like that a bit. It'll take some fight out of em and ive yet to choke one to death but if it happens, better him than you if you know what i mean. Good luck with man.
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« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2013, 04:33:43 pm » |
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I use 3/16 cable and make my on . Make the loop end tight and even pench it some to make it bite some . Set them on telephone poles useing about four foot of chain and a swivel ,put the chain on the pole up high as posable . I use two staples and a small stick to hang the loop out from the pole , this catches them by the head most of the time .A hog won't choke them selves and the chain being tied hi stops them from getting leverage. Butter up the poles with used diesel engine oil . Caught some big hogs like this!!!
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Bo Pugh
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« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2013, 09:21:44 pm » |
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I'm not a trapper or never fooled with any snares but if I was going to do that I would get a tranquilizer gun and just walk up and shoot them with it load them in the trailer and to the market it would be alot easier than trying to tie one by your self or drag him in a trailer with a rope on him. Good luck if you get a good one in a snare try to make a video and put on here I think that would be interesting to see
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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2013, 08:33:22 pm » |
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Goggle Dakota line snares. Order their catalog or see what they have listed on ebay. You will be looking for wolf/hog snares. Snaring hogs is an ugly business. The snares will dig into the skin and the sets must be checked often.
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Dan
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Muddogkennels
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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2013, 02:03:17 am » |
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They may work but with no swivel an 84 inch is a short snare that will only be able to set about a foot from a 5 inch tree an they have a loop stop. A 1/8'' cable with a cam lock should never imbed it's self around the neck if checked once a day! LEGS snares should be a heavier cable our steel strap snare that keeps from imbedding it's self on a big hog checked once a day! The best place is The Snare Shop they have the most an best inventory for trapping an skinning needs an u get a free catalog . @snareshop.com .. I would recommend the 8' 7x7 1/8''to 3/16''cable, cam lock, universal support collars, #9 swivel our bigger, for wolves,alligators,hogs.. an they can make them longer if ask with a little charge....I use a 30'' chain for securing the snare to the tree with a pad lock to lock in the name tag an swivel that's on the snare .. I will tell yall the first 3 steps 1st use rubber gloves the hole time. 2rd boil snares 10 to 15 mins before using them 3rd put them in a trash bag so you don't touch them with bare hands...
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