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« on: March 19, 2015, 09:51:07 pm »

I've been researching a lot about composting and how to figure out ways to use all types of waste for the good of our gardens... Apparently all meat eating animals waste can be composted for your garden. As long as you label them and properly date them. You can use your dog poop for your vegetables or any other edibles as long as you wait two yrs and/or let it go through the proper heat to kill the possible (but very improbable disease).

However, I am not going to devote the energy to hooking up a thermometer or heat probe to prove that my compost is heating up enough to kill these possible diseases. So I'm going to date them and start on my poop and hay pile for 2017 garden!! Woohoooo dog poop can help be an asset!! Bout time they add veggies to the table :-)
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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2015, 10:13:04 pm »

from what i was told today by a co-worker, some cities in oregon and across the nation are using treated human waist for irrigation/fertilization of crops used for human consumption. i don't how much truth to that there is, but i could believe here in oregon, with all the tree hungers, they would find a use for the "waist" so as not to waist what was used. if true, boy they are taking the go green recycling to a whole new level.  Grin but he did say something about bringing the waist to a specific temp to kill any harmful bacteria, so it may the truth. i don't know, just what he was telling me.
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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2015, 11:10:11 pm »

Yeah I've heard the same things. We are about to sell our place and build a cabin out in the woods. We have some friends that put in a grey water system instead of a septic tank and are using it to fertilize there fruit trees and garden. It's super interesting and awesome that our nutrients can sustain us
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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2015, 06:57:02 am »

jpuckett...that is what we call making "full circle recycling"... Cool  Grin

Charles...about 10 years or so ago I went along with my brother to go see one of his friends at his hay meadow...he was spreading some fertilizer for his grass that he planted...the fertilizer sort of looked like brown BB's of different sizes but no bigger than daizy BB's... I asked him was that nasty smelling brown bbs and he said...that there is some good chit...well what is it I asked again...and he says chit...I was a little confused then he tells me Texas A&M is experimenting with Human waste as fertilizer...he was trying it out because it was dirt cheap at the time...I never heard anything else since...sounded like a good deal...we eat the cattle which eat grass that got their nutrients from the poop that was made partially from the cattle and it just goes round and round...that is how mother nature works and I say that is the way we should try to mimic...

in the wild where man is not involved mother nature is at work doing it right...everything recycles back and the balance stays within an acceptable range because of the natural corrections...

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« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2015, 07:57:45 am »

The Henderson ranch down here at Devers has been using human waste for quite a few years now. They run around seven thousand head of cattle on grass that has been fertilized that way.
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« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2015, 10:18:48 am »

   all the farm land that surrounded my old place in waxahachie has been using the human waist out of ft worth for years . used to stink me out when they spread it   lol 

  I recycle most of my dog crap in the compost pile , I never waited no two years to use it mainly because the meat in the dog food has all ready been cooked and cured . when you get a good sized compost pile you can cover it in black plastic and it will speed up the cycle and break it down quicker . it doesn't take long to cook when you add green leafy products and add  produce leftover to it  . you can also buy a quick start additive that has microbes in it to speed the process up .
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« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2015, 10:44:28 am »

I get about 7 gallons of dog poop a week...I know it would make excellent compost but I don't garden...as a kid we went to the cow barn and shovel up the manure that was packed down for years...old decomposed cotton seed and hulls made excellent compost for our garden...gardening can be fun...it was a family thing for us back then...
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« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2015, 01:24:47 pm »

Here is an excellent publication on herbicide carryover. Lots of folks use manure from there livestock, that have been grazing on forages treated by herbicides, to fertilize their gardens.The chemical residue from 2-4D based products and many other herbicides can damage or kill your plants. A lot of the chemical residue can be destroyed by composting for at least 30days if they reach a high enough temperature.

http://content.ces.ncsu.edu/herbicide-carryover.pdf


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« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2015, 01:58:28 pm »

Alright fellas. I plan on growing a big garden this year. I have a few cows and obviously they crapped all over the pasture. I planned on scooping some up and using it as fertilizer. Is that not safe? Or do i need to do something to it ?
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« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2015, 02:20:41 pm »

  pile it up and let it cook .  if it been setting out in the pasture and dried up patty's I used to just bury a couple of patties underneath each tomato plant .   I've never worried much about catching anything bad from crap and never have gotten sick from using manure . you basically want it to break down so it wont be too hot and burn your plants up  .
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« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2015, 02:40:13 pm »

What if i took a bunch of it and tilled it in with the dirt. Fresh and old dry manure...
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« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2015, 05:48:51 pm »

I tilled up bout 5-6 tons of RICH chicken chit last yr in my garden bed of about 100'x60'. Im hoping with all the rain we've been getting and 6 months in the ground, it wont burn my veggies   Any insight on that much poo in that big of a garden, tilled and burried for that long?
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« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2015, 06:28:56 pm »

I don't know about that Charles...but we used it in our garden and it is some good stuff...our squash tasted like chicken... Cheesy
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« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2015, 07:14:39 pm »

  lol good one Rueben .  Charles it should be ok , the rain and sun and being woked into the dirt should have tamed it  .  the last garden I had at the farm I took the tractor and dug out about 1' of dirt from the top and I hauled in enough cow manure and straw from where we hayed the cattle and spread it back in and the put the top soil back on it and worked it good with the tiller .  amazing garden that year . I had zucchini plants that grow 5' tall and were big around as about 6'  my pea vines wouldn't stop growing and reached about 15' long on the fence , tomato plants reach up so high I had to use a step stool to pick tomatoes   lol  and picking okra the ones that weren't ready when I started had to be picked after I hit the end of the row  lol   . 

  I once drop a nickel out there and later that week dug up 85 cents  !!!!!!   
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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2015, 09:27:40 am »

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