mike rogers
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« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2015, 08:33:43 pm » |
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I made a half brother X sister cross and it was one of the best I ever made. I made a son X mother cross and I'm really enjoying what I'm seeing to date. I did it to double down on the dams traits. More track, looks, brains and such. Like Reuben stated it's one of the best ways to start. it gives you a little more control on what your producing. You see the good and dad traits when doing this, but it lets you tighten up the good while weeding out the bad. A full brother to sister cross is pretty tight, but remember that pups born in the same litter can be like and unlike when it comes to their genes and genetics... To me if you like the Sir and Dam that the two are out of then I would do a Father X daughter cross and or a Mother X Son cross.
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hillbilly
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« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2015, 11:01:23 pm » |
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I bred son to mother. She had 11 pups with only 1 making it. The mother is soon to be 8 years old. This is the reason I am wanting to try brother x sister. I am gonna try son to mother again just trying to prepare if she loses most of the pups again.
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jdfinney
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« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2015, 02:49:57 am » |
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Rueben give me a holler 903 466 2477 I need to ask you some questions on breeding
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Reuben
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« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2015, 05:07:42 am » |
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I got too much time on my hands right now...i am on the Frio river for a week so this site is a good plaPenney kill time...
The closest breeding I have made were dogs that already had blood relations from the breedings i made before....all dogs used were what I thought very good hog dogs...
Redman was the son of Buck...Penny was the daughter to Redman was also related to Penny's dam...I bred Penny to Buck who was her grandfather..this produced two awesome females named Melissa and Fly...I kept Fly and gave Melissa to a friend and he got good dogs out of her...still has Two old dogs related to her that are still worth feeding...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog... A hunting dog is born not made...
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Reuben
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« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2015, 05:26:13 am » |
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Using my phone really messes things up...Fly is daughter to penny and fly is bred to buck who is her father and grandfather...amongst other relations as well...Melissa had plenty of grit nose and hunt...fly had all the above with mire speed and hunt...she was the last to be turned loose...and on leash until all was ready because she didn't have no quit and she was going to find hogs somewhere...her pups were above average..one had all the qualities I liked and extremely gritty...even with a vest he didn't make it to Two years...another was exactly like fly but a male...the rest good hogdogs...these type of dogs will sometimes not make it in the heat due to no quit..they have to get caught...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog... A hunting dog is born not made...
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Reuben
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« Reply #25 on: August 06, 2015, 05:39:20 am » |
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The other day someone mentioned reasons to cull...he is a hunter and breeder of large Kemmer mt curs..breeding them for more than 30 years...one of the reasons to cull he mentioned "too much hunt"...first time I heard that and that was one mistake I made towards the end of my program...
I have heard talk that the pups can only be as good as the parents...that to me is not true...they are only as good as what is inside the parents...but I reckon the more alike they are due to line breeding or inbreeding then it becomes more true...I call it purifying the gene pool...some call it selective breeding...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog... A hunting dog is born not made...
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Reuben
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« Reply #26 on: August 06, 2015, 05:53:34 am » |
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It is coffee time...my thoughts on breeding dogs comes from personal experience and reading...it is my interpretations based on that...so it is my opinion on what I believe to be right...and it might not be for you...but that is one way of many on how we learn... by sharing our thoughts...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog... A hunting dog is born not made...
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Reuben
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« Reply #27 on: August 06, 2015, 07:46:42 am » |
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I know it is said that the closest breeding is brother to sister...I agree if the relations are minimal...IMO other types of breedings's can be closer depending on how the dogs are bred...
Imo it is best to inbreeding early to establish the line...and then extend the years between the generations to keep from bring in outside blood too soon...that is done as an experiment first...breed one of the dogsbfrom the line to an outside dog that suits you and compliments the bloodline...if the pups look good and act and hunt right then breed that dog back in...that is how to freshen the line...you have to guard and protect the bloodline...we don't want to go backwards in our breeding program....
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog... A hunting dog is born not made...
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Reuben
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« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2015, 03:50:57 am » |
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Rueben give me a holler 903 466 2477 I need to ask you some questions on breeding
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog... A hunting dog is born not made...
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