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« on: December 21, 2015, 04:42:31 pm » |
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anybody use a duetche drathaar on hogs
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Amokabs
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« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2015, 05:48:46 pm » |
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Fella here on the board crosses emmwith pits and others with jagds, if i remember. Seems pleased with
The results. Cant recall,if his straight draughts hunted. His name on the board is alabama jagd or something like that
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Reuben
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« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2015, 05:55:48 pm » |
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anybody use a duetche drathaar on hogs
I thought long and hard...almost bought a couple to try way back before I switched to mt curs... |
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
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« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2015, 06:25:06 pm » |
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Joey young that used to post here had one...may still have it.
He used it on hogs.
Also did some crosses with it.
Can't remember if he posted under 'jhy' on here or 'young'.... He posted on couple boards I frequented. Might try a search I'm sure it would come up. It was darn good looking dog.
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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2015, 06:43:21 pm » |
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Have a friend that had one she was well above average hog dog,a blood tracker and would retrieve dove she was a very nice well rounded dog. I would own one if they didn't cost $1200-$1600 and she was fairly gritty on a hog.
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Reuben
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« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2015, 06:48:49 pm » |
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Have a friend that had one she was well above average hog dog,a blood tracker and would retrieve dove she was a very nice well rounded dog. I would own one if they didn't cost $1200-$1600 and she was fairly gritty on a hog.
from what I read years ago back in the 1980's they were not far removed from Europe and they had very strict rules on which dogs were allowed to breed...they had to meet some requirements that proved they had a nose, retrieve, hunt wild boar etc...they were bred to be all around like other German breeds... |
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
A hunting dog is born not made...
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« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2015, 06:52:00 pm » |
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Here's an old thread of joey's drathaar that a search turned up... http://www.easttexashogdoggers.com/forum/index.php?topic=20647.0 a few others seemed to have one at one time or another... Seems a 'Parker' had one too...don't know if it was mr Larry or not? I know he tried a couple outs to his line quite a while back, one being gsp. |
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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2015, 07:05:51 pm » |
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Have a friend that had one she was well above average hog dog,a blood tracker and would retrieve dove she was a very nice well rounded dog. I would own one if they didn't cost $1200-$1600 and she was fairly gritty on a hog.
from what I read years ago back in the 1980's they were not far removed from Europe and they had very strict rules on which dogs were allowed to breed...they had to meet some requirements that proved they had a nose, retrieve, hunt wild boar etc...they were bred to be all around like other German breeds... Reuben this why i like the german breeds seem like they where culling hard here is an example : The breeding program for the Jagdterrier was massive in scale and unwavering in its selection criteria. At one point the men had 700 dogs in their kennels, and not a single dog was allowed to be placed outside of the kennel. Dogs that did not look the part, or which were deemed to be not of the quality desired, were shot. Early dogs were both smooth and rough coat, but the breeding program moved to get rid of smooth coats and the coat of the final product can best be described as "slape coated"—a short, hard and wiry coat that sheds water and dirt while providing warmth in winter. |
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liefalwepon
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« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2015, 09:27:14 pm » |
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thanks for the info guys. Ive been wanting a bird dog for bird hunting and crosses, so Im trying to decide between a DD or a GSP or a EP, I wonder which one is calmer?
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« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2015, 10:37:39 pm » |
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As bird dogs they are harder than GSP's and can be somewhat harder to train as they are more independent. If you get one going the right direction they are hard to beat.
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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2015, 12:37:21 am » |
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I work with a guy that has one and he grew up around them. They are still strict on requiring hunt test to get papers on them. Each dog must complete the hunt trial successfully regardless of parent. They also require certain physical characteristics. You can't get papers until the dog is mature. This is what he told me. He said the dogs perform very well as bird dogs. They also are very gamey dogs. One of his adult dogs disappeared one night and he found fresh hog sign near by the next day. Said he believed the dog went after the hog and got killed. He said he stumbled up on a hog one day and the old dog bayed till he got to him then caught. He is not a hog hunter. He is a bird Hunter and very sold on the breed as being the best all round dog there are. He currently has a young dog that is a very nice dog that handles very well. Impressive dogs in my opinion.
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parker49
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« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2015, 07:56:11 am » |
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I crossed german shorthair with mine .... friend of mine has one named bert he is a hog dog ,,,, he'll take a track mid day and put a hog on the end of it ...but he's about 5 years old and suppose too ... I have a pup off him right now that's 3/4 parker 1/4 gsp but he's just a puppy right now .... I like well bred dogs of any breed because if there is working ability you like in the bloodline it should breed truer I hate throw backs ..they are usually set back's ....
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Reuben
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« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2015, 05:29:16 pm » |
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I used to hunt now and then with a man from Tivoli, TX and he used to tell stories on dogs he got from the dog pound...he was good friends with the dog catcher and the dog catcher would give him a call anytime he got a dog that had potential to make a hog dog...He told a story about a beagle, a bluetick hound and a wirehaired Drathaar...all three stories are good but will tell about the all purpose/bird dog...
He got the call and he goes and picks up the dog...goes hunting after a short socialization period and he turns the dog into the bay around 10 PM or so...they caught a few hogs and when he was ready to go home the dog wouldn't quit running the hogs in that thick brush...he leaves the dog and the next morning he tried to catch the dog but he wouldn't quit running the hogs...so he left the dog and never saw him again...
I believe the Weimeraner, German Short Hair and the Drathaar were bred as all purpse hunting dogs for boar, deer, birds etc...I got quite a few ideas from how they bred and culled dogs from back in the early 1980's...I have searched long and hard in finding how they did things in the last few years but that info I can not find...might have been too harsh to make it available any more...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
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« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2015, 09:50:41 am » |
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I paid 2 grand for the female I bred to my curs ..... she came from outback kennels .... the crosses have done well but for hogs I like straight curs ....I have this young pup out of bert he's 3/4 cur 1/4 gsp buts its just a project ..something to play with .... may end up with a super dog but the curs seem to have more of a natural bay mouth ......
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