game bred pup

[WayOutWest]

Rednose, I have found over the years that not every line of APBT are the same. My stuff down from Blackjack blood do not seem to be as naturally aggressive. They seem to size things up before they react. Very different than the lines I started out with. Just my opinion.

[Semmes]

Lets look at it this way. Simce i dont sell dogs producing mutts is a nonfactor.What do I have to lose with trying it?

A bit of handle. A bit of size. A bit of calm smart catching sense

What do I have to gain?

Better wind, better muzzle and teeth, better overall health, vigor, a touch more drive and even a bit of hardness to a degree. Yeah it was worth the experiment when they can always be culled, but may click just right in one or two and maybe even better in the next generation of a blend

[Georgia-Hawgs]

this is my blue dog that ive been talking about.  Hes 60 pounds on a heavy day. So far he's proven himself pretty well for me. 

[TheRednose]

Rednose, I have found over the years that not every line of APBT are the same. My stuff down from Blackjack blood do not seem to be as naturally aggressive. They seem to size things up before they react. Very different than the lines I started out with. Just my opinion.

Wayout I def value your opinion and I agree with it, I know this to be true as well. Some dogs and lines throw more fiery dogs, just like some throw early starters, and some throw lots of cold dogs. Matter of fact I have seen some strange things with these dogs over the years, and there is no rule, just majority and exceptions no 100% I was just speaking in general terms is all, but I see what you are saying you would go with a line that tends not to be as fiery.

Thanks for your answer Semmes just wanted your point of view on it cause I know bulldogs inside and out but no experience with crossing them into anything.

[TheRednose]

Oh and sorry Dodo I did not mean to thread jack your topic bud.

[Semmes]

Georgia, I don't lump all the blue dogs together. Each dog stands on it's on merits and the direction the were bred toward.

I know the blue dogs temperament runs the full spectrum. Alot are bred on protection tendencies. Alot as well by thugs with no real knowledge or skills for this type of thing.

It's a fact that if you watch pitbull bite videos all over the web the majority are big blocky amstaff or bluedogs. I ride thru the ghetto or north Baton Rouge daily to get to work and routinely see these type of dogs being walked around and showcased. Even the videos of the creators such as gotti and razor edge advertise them as home protection guardian dogs. There is even an interview online where it is admited they are crossed up dogs.

I have seen plenty of great temperamented well behaved ones as well. But the popularity of snd yge fact that there are do many in inexperienced homes of these particular dogs has led directly to human deaths and bsl all over this country.

Just check Craigslist in any city in the country and 50+% will prob be blue bred pits.

Here is a good blue dog. The trainer is a guy I know. I would say friend but I haven't seen him in years but we were once on a first named basis. I met him quite a few times and he is a great trainer, he also was an AB guy. Some on this board know him as well and could second that.

This dog is hummer. Troy didn't own him but kept him for couple years and trained him for the owner who was a sports star, rapper, or sumthing... That part is kinda vague lol but dude had big money lets say.

This dog was one badass sob. I met the dog at a dogshow in the Chicago area. The dog would flat out take a persons nutz with just his presence and knew it. I don't mind saying, that even tho the dog was under complete control he scared me a bit lol.
Dog would actually look you in your eyes almost as a dare lol
Anyway it was In a movie as well. The last nighare on elm street flick.
Dog was a fine dog! No doubt....but don't get it twisted the dog was real and meant business

I day all this go say without knowing the breeding and bit bout the recent ancestors of a dog such as that, it's just a can of worms I wouldn't open.

Here's couple links to video of hummer.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5lR1VzYfX2M
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m5rtlkYqRzI
For more vids google Troy seaton and hummer

[Semmes]

The dog I bred to I knew the sire, dam, and grandsire grand and grand dams of  and great grand sire and dam in one side of and knew exactly what I was getn into.

[dodo1987]

Your fine and I like the info being posted