kennel's

[cnunley]

Ok everyone I'm starting to build kennel's I would post pictures of the ones I built for myself but my phone is a piece of junk  but anyway they are off the ground style 4x10's but can build whatever you want call or txt for info (940)452-8004

[charles]

What type of metal enclosure material are you using, goat/cattle panel, no climb horse fence or what?

[cnunley]

It is 2in angle iron frame work with 4x4 utility Pannell and 2x12 boards for floor

[charles]

Copy. Im trying to find a retailer that sells 8ga wire rolls, similar to the wire used on them doc bob or tsc 10x10x6 kennels. Im wanting build some using 1 1/4" thick wall sq tubing and center drill the tubing to allow the individual strands to inserted through the tubing and tacked and then put a bit of tension (500 ftlbs) on ea strand then tack on the adjacent tubing and then weave the opposing strands thrpugh the previously installed strands and build them in 5'x6' panels for easy transport/moving. Iv been looking for the wire for the past 3-4yrs and think im honna have to use high tensile bracing wire and hope the heat from welding doesnt weaken it to much.

[cnunley]

To be honest and its just my opinion and maybe I'm not understanding what your trying to say but that seems like a whole lot of work for more than its worth it I am definitely interested in trying to understand what your talking about

[charles]

OH, it IS a lot of work. as for picturing it in your mind, i can draw it out in a print form, but getting attached as a pic to here is a lil difficult without tapatalk or some other kind of photo adding app and as snail pace slow as the forum is on my phone, its more trouble than building the kennel panels. il try to explain in another way though.
cut 2 6' 3" pieces of thick gauge 1 1/4" sq tubing, cut 2 5' pieces, 45 1 end of ea 6' 3" and 1 end of ea 5' length of tubing. tack weld all the tubing end up with a 3" gap under the 5' long piece of tubing (to act as a leg/foot). get the desired spacing (for me a 2x4 mesh works perfect and 2x4 lumber fits snuggly through the gaps in the wire mesh) for the wire strands and center punch ea spot where the individual strands will pull through the tubing, both the vert and horiz runs. grind the welds off, separating the 5' from the 6'3" lengths. if a drill press is used, great, but my poor ass aint got 1, but either way, make sure the 5' and 6'3" tubings are lined up, butted up and sq with ea corresponding length. vise or clamp or whatever you gotta do to secure the same length tubing to ea other and start drill the holes that were found and center punched.
once all holes are drilled, reassemble the frame and fully weld it up. take a strand of wire and run through ea hole, taking it on both side or just one side if the person sees fit to do so, then run the other end through the corresponding hole on the adjacent tubing of the same length and pull the sh#$ out of it and tack that end. once all strands are run either vert or horz, then repeat for the other portion of the frame, but weave ea strand through first sets of strands. its basically making a weaved mat made out of steel, similar to the rebar mats used in concrete, but instead of laying the mat on the outer side of the panel frame, its being put in the middle of the frame.
its hard for me to type out and sometime, even draw out what i have planned in my head, unless i draw/lay it out in a blue print format, for others to understand. if I'm still not making sense to you, sorry, i don't know how to explain it any other way. 

[cnunley]

I think I understand what your wanting  you said you was having trouble finding a retailer to get the wire couldn't you do the same thing and just use some small cable

[charles]

stranded cable doesn't weld like solid wire. the strands of wire that make up the cable are way to small to try and weld, at least for me to weld. I'm sure someone out there can do it, but i honestly don't think i can mess with cable. i wish i could find the same wire that is used for cattle panels or utility panels. that would be a lot easier to mess with and last a lot longer

[tmatt]

Charles, IMO that's is a lot of wasted time for no gain in strength or durability... There is nothing to be gained by doing it the way you are talking about. Why not just get some panels with the 2x4 holes you are wanting and do it the same way? You could center punch and drill your holes into the square then weld around them. It would be a lot easier on you and easier on the pocketbook.
If you just have to go through all the trouble to build them that way then why not get some small bar stock and use that?

[charles]

bc those panels from tac or doc bob are sh&$. they rust out way to fast or the welds are sh%$ and the break. plus the wire is a lili thin, but does work. as for no more strength, you are wrong. a woven mat is a lot stronger than a mat made up of wires played on top of ea other and then spot welded, which i don't have a spot welder and not buying 1 either. even using using that 2x4 welded wire isn't as strong as a woven mat. we had many a gun cages made out of different material, mostly woven mat, but we did have some cattle panel utility panel style cages and we had problems with the spot welded strands that were just played on top of ea other, separating and becoming weak. it my pocket book, and I'm telling anyone else that is the only way they should do it, its how i want it done, and i want it like that, because iv seen the strength put to the test, especially with young dumb soldiers, just throwing the gun cages around, or half's loading them on the 10K and falling off half way up to be loaded onto a 2 1/2tn. the woven mats are also used on MRAPS for the front and side windows as an RPG protector/deflector. it actually didn't deflect, it would more so, catch the RPG and prevent the fused tip from impacting the windows and detonating. iv seen them come back with RPGs stuck in them, EOD would remove the round and the tck was sent back outside the wire. so as for no more strength, again, you are wrong. i am not saying RPGs will be shot at my dog kennels, I'm just stating actual observations as to how strong a woven mat is, compared to welded wire or the 2x4 panels you were talking about.
 

[c dunn]

What about pencil rod? It's solid metal, come in 20ft sticks. It sounds like what your looks by for

[Reuben]

Charles...before building one figure your costs...just north of Houston this man makes some of the best quality chain link kennels...in my opinion his are just as good as mason kennels for half the money...unless his prices have gone up...if interested pm me...

[cnunley]

I have been trying to post pictures of my kennel's but I can't figure out how can someone help me out

[Mike]

If you gave the Tapatalk app, you can upload them directly from your phone. If not, there's a pinned topic at the top of the Dogs on Hogs board with instructions on how to post pics.

[charles]

Charles...before building one figure your costs...just north of Houston this man makes some of the best quality chain link kennels...in my opinion his are just as good as mason kennels for half the money...unless his prices have gone up...if interested pm me...

But then ill have shipping, well, fuel cost for my tig and depending if i have to take a trailer, that adds more to the fuel cost. Plus building it myself, im not paying anyone for their time, if it get screwed up, i have only myself to blame and it will be built how i want it, not how someone else wants to build it. Unless its completely prefab assembly line mass produced item, most of the time i can build it for 50% or more in savings than paying someone else. I also enjoy metal fabrication, so it doesnt turn into a job, it stays an enjoyment.

[Reuben]

No problem...post something pictures when you finish with the kennel project...

[charles]

No problem...post something pictures when you finish with the kennel project...

it'll be a bit. I'm diverting 90% of my income after bills are paid, to finishing up my flight training. between what is left from gi bill, i will end up paying bout 10-12k out of pocket to finish up in a turbine heli and hopefully go to afghanistan or go fly for tuna boats.