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jebarb
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« on: April 14, 2019, 02:32:24 pm »

How many of you have made or hunted  with a German shorthair pointer cross on curs ect ? Pro’s & Con’s
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« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2019, 05:14:27 pm »

I made the cross on one of my cur gyps in 2011 and had 10 pups. Out of those 10 two were culls cause they would not bay and the 8 remaining were good, but 7 were straight catch by the time they were a year old. The one loose bay I kept was as good as I’ve ever seen but I lost him when he crossed a highway running a hog. Every single one of them were get gone hard hunting no quit kind of dogs. They would naturally roll over after you broke them off the caught hog lol. The rough dog thing wasn’t for me so I never made the cross again. I’m really thinking about trying it again but instead of a cur I’m gonna use a good hound
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« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2019, 05:58:44 pm »

I did a long time ago on a cur gyp, I'm going to be honest I was to young and naive to see what it added, I did a lot of walk hunting then and we caught hogs with those dogs, repeated it again several years later, one thing I do remember vividly and never will forget is those first f1's we raised would be running through the yard as little pups and see a rooster on a tie cord and would all throw up on point, a couple of them even did it at a few years old, a bird would light down in front of them and BAM you'd look and they'd be on point...
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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2019, 07:30:18 pm »

I think there is a family of dogs  called Georgia curs that are a cur pointer cross. I don't know the percentage of each but I hunted with a couple. They were hot footed and had the bite. They were stupid rough but definitely weren't bashful. They zig zag hunted and at a real fast pace. I thought they were nice dogs myself. I know they started some sort of registry also for a hound/pointer cross that they were competition coon hunting. Said they wanted to quiet the hound and speed them up but needed the treeing ability of the hounds. Again I don't know what the exact percentages were.

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« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2019, 07:36:26 pm »

Good buddy of mine made a bird dog/plott cross 6 or 7 years ago and I’ll tell ya that the litter of 10 or 11 were hog crazy! Pretty much all of em turned out but there were a few super stars outta that litter too. Some were rough, some were loose, but all had hunt in them. Unfortunately there’s only one of em still around and hopefully we’ll be crossing him on my cur/plott gyp soon.
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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2019, 08:41:09 pm »

I think there is a family of dogs  called Georgia curs that are a cur pointer cross. I don't know the percentage of each but I hunted with a couple. They were hot footed and had the bite. They were stupid rough but definitely weren't bashful. They zig zag hunted and at a real fast pace. I thought they were nice dogs myself. I know they started some sort of registry also for a hound/pointer cross that they were competition coon hunting. Said they wanted to quiet the hound and speed them up but needed the treeing ability of the hounds. Again I don't know what the exact percentages were.

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Randy Dominy  from GA started the outlaw curs but they're a bird bull cross, he stayed with us at Uncle Earls several years ago, pretty interesting fella...
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« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2019, 10:42:23 pm »

I think there is a family of dogs  called Georgia curs that are a cur pointer cross. I don't know the percentage of each but I hunted with a couple. They were hot footed and had the bite. They were stupid rough but definitely weren't bashful. They zig zag hunted and at a real fast pace. I thought they were nice dogs myself. I know they started some sort of registry also for a hound/pointer cross that they were competition coon hunting. Said they wanted to quiet the hound and speed them up but needed the treeing ability of the hounds. Again I don't know what the exact percentages were.

Sounds similar to them Campbell curs out of Georgia.

There was a guy that used to be on here that I hunted with a couple of times and he had an outstanding pure GSP. He told me he was able to get her because instead of pointing she would just try and catch the bird so she was a cull on birds. Man she was a ball of energy and she would go. Very nice dog.
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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2019, 10:49:18 pm »

I’ve got a 1/2 cat 1/2 walker gyp I been wanting to cross to a gsp. I’ve hunted with straight gsp’s before and they were very gritty but hunted hard...one in particular would actually point a hog he couldn’t catch alone, which was aggravating because it was hard for the help dogs to find him. My female I wanna cross  is good enough  in fresh sign but lazy in no sign. I’m hoping the bird dog will add some drive to the pups.
Yea I’d like to hear people’s input on how bird crosses turn out also. Ideally I’d like them to be loose bay, but sounds like a gamble.  
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