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« on: April 02, 2025, 11:34:43 am » |
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Had 3 small hogs in the trailer so loaded up the 4 young dogs and 4 pups, took them to a creek bottom and tied out 2 young dogs and 2 pups, got one of the hogs out of the trailer and let them watch him run off. When he got gone turned them all loose, of course the 2 young dogs made the race and bay but only 1 of the pups made it. Went back and repeated the process with the other 4 same result, one of the pups didn't make it. The 3rd one was a good sort of hog and escaped didn't turn dogs after him. Fast forward 3 or 4 days same deal had 3 hogs in the trailer but took just the 4 pups tied them out, got one of the hogs out and let him go, when he was gone sent the pups after him, they all 4 made a good race and bayed hard while we made the walk to them. Back at the trailer repeated the process with the same results. Again a good sort of sow got away. They made a good showing for their second exposure. I have been out of a catchdog this year but a friend of mine had gotten 2 from a pound and didn't want them both so he offered me one of them. I went and got him and lo and behold had another hog in the trailer, so took the 4 pups and the Bulldog and repeated same process from above, the pups bayed the hog where there wasn't much cover and was moving around and trying to break, we (my wife was with me) led the bulldog in and he got to wanting to go from about 30 yds so I turned him loose, when he got there he just pilfered around. I thought well we struck out with this one, then the hog ran and hit him, still he just turned around and looked at the hog, but just then the hog broke and ran the bulldog ran up and with it being a small hog he caught it by the back of the neck. we got him and the Plotts off of the hog and let him go again this time the bulldog hit the hog like he meant it although he was still caught by the back of the neck, I figure he'll catch a bigger hog by the ear, time will tell. He looks more like an American Staff to me than a pit, probably weighs about 55 lb., is real athletic. He's shown no dog or man aggression didn't try to drag me around so he has a chance, he is mostly blue, (don't know about that) time will tell.
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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2025, 02:00:47 pm » |
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Good for those pups, good chance the cd makes it imo. Rodney told me once theres no such thing as a blue pit, dont know if he meant its mixed with a mastiff or a staff etc Ill have to ask him
He gave me a tank pup thats only 6 mo old and bays real tight from the first hog hes seen, was with the strike dogs on the last hog he saw, his 3rd in the woods, got him cut up2 weekends ago but he should be ready this coming wknd.
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The Old Man
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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2025, 03:41:57 pm » |
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Well, he's fired off really good, maybe he'll learn some respect so he can grow old and bay you lots of hogs.
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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2025, 09:09:25 pm » |
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Sounds like this round of pups is going to fall in right with the older group. Your fixing to be hunting dog poor. I bet the catch dog makes it. Does he settle down pretty quick after you get him off or does he stay amped up?
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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2025, 09:10:54 pm » |
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One of the two hardest headed dogs I’ve ever been around or took to the woods was a blue dog. Man he was a nightmare so I have him to one of my real good hunting buddies.
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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2025, 09:15:54 pm » |
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My partner Tim had what I thought was more of an amstaff type catch dog and he was a good sucker for us for lots of years till the chagas got him. Not a blue dog, but I’ve had a blue or 2 and seen a few that were fine catch dogs. As it’s been explained to me, the “blue” mutation doesn’t occur/is not breed standard is full blooded APBT’s. just means there’s something else in the woodpile; as is the case for a very large percentage of catch dogs in the states.
Clue, we did something of the same sort today with pups and had good luck. Let one go and trail and find it and had 7 or 8 pups baying before it was over with. Can’t beat that kind of set up for success for those pups.
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Judge peel
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« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2025, 06:21:40 am » |
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That’s not true slim who ever told you that doesn’t know the game dog history. There are few famous blues dogs from the 1920s they were common where they came from in Scotland blue Paul. The blue color is a double recessive gene so you have to breed for it just like glass eyes in catahula dogs or white Shepards. Now the blue dogs you see today are of a different type of breeding and are mostly bred for looks not performance I have had a handful of them ain’t had good luck doesn’t mean some else won’t. But it is a original color of pitbull dogs earl tudor handled two of them in high profile matches if they would have won that color and gene pool would be a different wood pile then it is today
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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2025, 07:04:49 am » |
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That is as good a training situation as it gets for pups. Great way to get them started, I bet the pit will move to the ear on bigger hogs.
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Bayou Cajun Plotts Happiness is a empty dogbox Relentless pursuit
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The Old Man
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« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2025, 07:53:35 am » |
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Those 4 pups, due to circumstance, have been given more background than they usually get here. Have turned them 5 hogs loose total, actually 4 each since I had them separated the first trip. Normally they get 1 hog or 1 coon "if" it comes handy. There is 1 of them that seems to have some extra, and 1 of them a little bit weaker. They will all continue to get equal opportunity until they don't. They are from 2 different litters, both mothers were from here, I sold them as young started dogs and retained a breeding on one of them. One litter the dad is from here, the other dad is from a very renowned hunter/breeder whose dogs have some common lineage with what I keep. So far the outside sired litter are just a tad behind the others, but when the female owner picked her up they told him don't worry if they don't start strong real early.
The other 4 young dogs were from 1 litter and are nearly identical in shown abilities so far. The bulldog has a good chance of getting to stay here, he shows no aggression, doesn't work a chain, settled down immediately after I got him off the hog. Just like with people, his color won't bother me if it doesn't bother him. Since I never attempted to raise any bulldogs I had always cut the males I had in the past, he being from the pound was already neutered.
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« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2025, 11:11:00 am » |
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Sounds like a good thing all the way around and maybe a little less to worry about the weaker showing on those slower starting pups. I know you’re big about being natural and early contributors but though. I’m guessing how slow they progress will be your determining factor.
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« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2025, 04:00:48 pm » |
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For now that's got it covered, but it will depend on how slow, slow is.
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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2025, 04:38:52 am » |
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Old man I was thinking your pups are plots am I right. Sounds like there doing good seems so hit and miss these days unless you know exactly where they came from and so on
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The Old Man
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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2025, 06:04:19 am » |
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Yes, they are Plotts. They mostly come from a Gantte/Weems background.
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The Old Man
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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2025, 06:08:25 am » |
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Slim you guys are on a roll for young dogs, OL'Sketch is leaving you with something to build on.
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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2025, 07:48:49 am » |
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Sounds like a good training session. That is how I like to work young dogs also, just turning out hogs to them in the woods. They seem to be on the right track.
Did I miss where you lost the Dogo?
Ive always had fixed catchdogs. I had a female I really liked and tried to breed her 4-5 times to different males and she never took. I guess it was a sign I dont belong in the bulldog breeding game! lol
Good luck with yours.
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« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2025, 08:13:22 am » |
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Slim you guys are on a roll for young dogs, OL'Sketch is leaving you with something to build on.
Finally. Feels like for the first 5 years of trying to get this thing built up we were spinning our wheels not gaining any ground. Couldn’t keep young dogs alive. We are having a lot better luck this year no doubt. Doesn’t sound like you are too short on prospects either sir. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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The Old Man
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« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2025, 09:21:17 am » |
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Last summer Ol'Grip, the Dogo overheated and died. I have really missed him, he was zero trouble and a good catchdog. Had a female pup out of him that didn't make the cut. I may have ruined her, she was extremely hyper and I was pretty rough on her, but here if a dog requires discipline and can't stand it they are considered a cull.
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« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2025, 08:47:23 am » |
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but here if a dog requires discipline and can't stand it they are considered a cull.
Me and you think alike in this respect... Hope them pups and the cd work out for you ,, they are in the right hands if they hold up their end of the bargain..
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Hoghunters do it deeper in the bush.
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