HORSE AND CUR DOGS

[The Old Man]

                                                           HOOKER IN THE FOREGROUND, MOTHER TO COWBOY AND QUEEN TO BE PICTURED BELOW                                                                                       

                                                           

                                                                                                  MY THIRD AND CURRENT COWBOY
                                                           

                                                                                            QUEEN, LITTERMATE TO COWBOY, POOR PICTURE
                                                           

                                                                                                                SPOOK
                                                           

                                                                                                                 GYPSY
                                                              

  Had a tough day, supposed to have been 5 cows was only 4, rode and looked for them a long time in timbered hills and hollows. Dogs finally hit their track and bayed them but there was one that kept punching through the dogs they'd apply the ivory and get her stopped and the other 3 would catch up to her. Repeat the process numerous times and they got turned toward where they needed to go but we were trapped behind an old fence. Took us awhile to get through and when we did dogs showed to be near the pen we were headed to "a neighbor let us use his pen, he'd succed his cattle in" the problem cow was trying to get in with them while the dogs were flogging her. Got her and waited for the trailer to get there to load her.
 Then went back and sent the dogs back down the hill to find the other 3, they bayed them in there and we started punching them up through the cedars and briars, got them in the open and the fellow that owned them was hazing the right hand side he let them back in the timber. Repeat the process and when we  put them in the open one bolted, dogs on her, she went in the timber across the open and way on over there we caught her. led her out was loading her in the trailer and she died, only the third one I can ever remember dying that we caught to load, lord only knows how many times I've done that. 
  Went back for the other two, they'd made it way off over there, dogs found them drove them back near the open by myself before Adam got there "we'd split up looking for the cows and the dogs had trailed way off before baying them" one cow was staying in front the other decided to stop I told Adam to try to punch her to the front cow, while I tried to haze the front one towards where we needed to go, got them out in the open though separately, and got them caught and loaded without incident. The first cow and the third cow were well earmarked and had bloody noses. The fellow was glad to get them, he'd given 3000 to 3700 for them, he was present for the whole deal on the one that died and wasn't upset "with us" about her dying.
  It just didn't go smoothly but they were pretty rank Brangus cows in over a thousand acres with little or no fences and 90 percent timber, we could hardly ever get up to a trot, it was hard on cows, horses and men.

[t-dog]

Man that was almost a one at a time deal. It sure sounds like it was rough. Glad you got them and it sounds Ike the dogs really did their part.


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[NLAhunter]

Good looking cur dogs sounds like yall got the job done

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[t-dog]

Obviously there’s a difference, what is the Spook dog?


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[cajunl]

Fine looking cur dogs!

[The Old Man]

  Spook is just black with yellow trim rather than yellow with black trim. He is bred the same as the others but he is older than them.  I get a few colored that way every now and then.

[The Old Man]

  Spook has the same sire as the others, their sire is heavier made than Spook. Actually, that is all I had against his sire he was a little bit heavier made than I prefer, and it would tell on him if we had a long hot day. His dam was a half sister to the others grand sire.

[t-dog]

They are nice dogs. Do you notice any differences in the ones that come black vs the yellow ones in any way? I know it’s not exactly an apples to apples comparison, but a lot of times in the game chickens when a family would get tightly bred, you would get what they call a sport. What they were was a throwback to something that was used to create them. For instance my dad had a family of Black Japs. They were tight bred when he got them and then he started getting solid white ones. The black and the white were different in many ways besides color. I’ve seen it many times over the years in different families. I’ve seen it in dogs as well. A pure this or that that was created by breeding more than one breed or family together to get them. We see it in the plotts for example. I was just curious as to whether you noticed it or not? Have you ever bred back to any of the black dogs?


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[The Old Man]

 There are no discernable differences in their behavior or working traits, I have bred the black ones but never black to black. Best I can tell that is a color gene only, probably recessive and occasionally links to present as dominant.
  At the moment I have 2 black pups not old enough to work, they are from 2 different litters, one is all home breeding the other is a three quarter home breeding from a female that was out of one of my males and another strain female. That total outside female had 3 or 4 black ones when bred to my yellow male. When I get them at home there is usually just 1 or 2. Long term I usually have from 1-3 on the yard.
 I don't mind them at all but don't breed for them since that's not how I found them but don't consider it when evaluating them. Some folks that see them prefer their color.

[cajunl]

I know color dont mean a lot. But its funny. In Florida a lot of the old ranch cow dogs are those two colors. Just about all the cowboys dogs are either yellow or the black and silver. Just interested to see.

[Hollowpoint]

Good looking dogs for sure, sounds like a hard days work when I hear cedars and briers. That stuff is hard to get through.

[The Old Man]

  Thank you'all.

[Cajun]

Good looking dogs Clue and sure sounds like y'all had your work cut out for you. High as cows are I bet the owner was glad just to get 4 back.