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« on: November 17, 2009, 09:08:50 am »

I am sure if you don't read this site this message will get relayed to you through someone that does.

IT IS HUNTING SEASON and your dogs are Crossing property LINES onto HUNTING CLUB LAND.
THIS MORNING I GET A CALL ONE OF YOUR DOGS COME UP TO A FELLA ON HIS LAND WEARING an UGLY DOG RANCH CUT COLLAR. THATS WHY MY PHONE RANG.

MCCORMICK & Esqarvell land borders the MUSTANG HUNTING CLUB off of MUSTAng Road, so you know who you are, and your dog was on this mans land, and that is not right, YOUR ARE MESSING IT UP FOR ALL DOG HUNTERS

People Wonder why it is hard to get permission to hunt property with their dogs, and its like this Middle of Duck & Deer season and some people can't help themselves.
I am sure tis guy will be talking to his neighbors and his neighbors will most likely have the same opinion of HOG DOG HUNTERS.

So If YOU CAN"T FIND YOUR DOG go down MUSTANG ROAD and NEAR the old Iron Gates is where the man seen the dog go to
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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2009, 10:04:13 am »

That's a good one Krystal. TELL IT LIKE IT IS  That's the reason I don't wear name plates and such on my dogs LMAO Seriosly well said you go girl but there will always be a bad apple in the barrel
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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2009, 02:24:09 pm »

Krystal some people are just dumb. Then they whine because there dogs get shot.
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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2009, 02:34:00 pm »

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Krystal some people are just dumb. Then they whine because there dogs get shot.

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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2009, 03:49:24 pm »

Before anyone gets upset here I do not know the story so im just asking and just thinking ouside the box but was the dog running deer, taking ducks from the retreivers or bothering someones livestock? I do know this, there is alot of hog control done for farmers in that area and nomatter what time a year it is they still want hogs off their fields. It almost sounds like yall are suggesting all dogging stop during these other hunting seasons. Again just asking.
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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2009, 04:13:53 pm »

Before anyone gets upset here I do not know the story so im just asking and just thinking ouside the box but was the dog running deer, taking ducks from the retreivers or bothering someones livestock? I do know this, there is alot of hog control done for farmers in that area and nomatter what time a year it is they still want hogs off their fields. It almost sounds like yall are suggesting all dogging stop during these other hunting seasons. Again just asking.


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« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2009, 04:25:57 pm »

My comment was a little off topic from the original post, it had more to do with BoarBuster's commentt.  People turn out in deer season, next to hunting leases, then complain when a weekend warrior shoots their dog.  Not exactly the case here....but  it can turn that way quick.
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« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2009, 04:41:14 pm »

My first thought was why dont they have a tracking system and collars on their dogs?

I definitely agree with considering deer hunters, season and neighboring properties but who really knows? The most logical theory is some jack ace was not being too smart or taking care of business and could very well possibly be a bad apple.....but it may not be the case as well.

My area is loaded with deer hunters. I quit hunting 7 ranches during deer season but do hunt 1. That one ranch I hunt has 2800 acres with no hunters and no hunters on the joining two ranches of 2500 acres and 1200 acres. That is 6500 acres to hunt. I have an additional 5000 with retrieval rights and permission after deer season.

I still hunt the 6500 acres during deer season and have had the dogs just last week get on the 2500 acres with hunters. That kinda makes things difficult and for the most part can keep my dogs on the 6500 acres.

Sometimes things happen and I cant cut the dogs off or they range or trail too far. I would hate to be the big jack ace yall are talking about if that happened to me.  Grin

Only difference in me is...I only hunt during the night and notify the hunters or land owners (if a situation is to occur), have tracking collars and would never leave without my dog(s).
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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2009, 04:47:10 pm »

I'm not gonna quit hunting because of deer season.  I'm more careful but I still go.  The dog may have been out since the night before.  I'm willing to bet that anyone who has dogs that are remotely decent has their dogs get off a property at some point.  That or they are some kind of exception. 
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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2009, 05:44:59 pm »

Just as Craig stated, these farmers want the hogs out of there fields regardless of what hunting season it is. I hunt for a couple of them in the same area that butts up next to this place. Like stated above, I'll bet it was someone that was hunting it the night before and hasn't been able to retrieve the dog.
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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2009, 05:53:59 pm »

I thought that's why we paid dues to TDHA so that we could educate and bring people around to hog dogs as a viable tool in reducing damage to Ag crops by feral hogs??? Huh? Huh? Huh?
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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2009, 05:55:47 pm »

That sure does look bad for the rest of us, thats a big part of the reason why so many think we cut fences and run dogs w/o permission, sure hate to see that, and an ugly collar on top, makes it seem that yall are associated and support folks like that.....But we all know better Wink
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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2009, 06:06:47 pm »

It might look bad to someone who is thinking he leased the land to duck hunt and in his mind that is the only hunting allowed at that time. When at the same time the farmer has someone hunting it for hogs. Most of this property is leased for hunting from someone other than the farmer. The hunting club and the farmer are leasing from the same investors.
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« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2009, 06:41:24 pm »

We should all be running tracking on all dogs this time of year, and try and make sure we retrieve all dogs that are being hunted. I am also working depridation controll and we talk to ajoining land owners and hunters so they know what is going on.
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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2009, 06:44:23 pm »

Mustang hunting club is only for dove hunting an besides they aint no tellin where that dog came from the hogs run so bad in this area its not funny.
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« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2009, 07:01:53 pm »

I'am sure not every dog hunter out there has or can afford a tracking unit. Silverton, most of these farm fields in the location are only seperated by a ditch, and the same farmer might have the field on the other side of the one you need to cross. I don't leave any dogs in the field if I can avoid it. If for some reason I have to leave one I'll call and let the farmer know that it is still out.
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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2009, 08:02:23 pm »

I'am sure not every dog hunter out there has or can afford a tracking unit. Silverton, most of these farm fields in the location are only seperated by a ditch, and the same farmer might have the field on the other side of the one you need to cross. I don't leave any dogs in the field if I can avoid it. If for some reason I have to leave one I'll call and let the farmer know that it is still out.

I agree with some of your other posts and do not know the situation and/ or the hunting terms of this particular situation. If a dogger (especially a hog dogger) cannot afford a tracking unit of some sort...IMO they do not need to be hunting.
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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2009, 08:20:36 pm »

Well IMO if you dont have a tracking you can still hunt but if your dog crosses property lines that you dont have permission to hunt on be prepared for the consequences if someone tries to be hard a$$ about it. Wink
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« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2009, 08:57:45 pm »

That was a little bit of a controversial statement I made but with primarily silent tracking dogs and so many different dangers of hogs and situations....it is unfair to your dog to not have a system.
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« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2009, 09:06:49 pm »

If it was every man for himself and your attitude didn't effect the hog dog community as a whole, I'd say go for, be an idiot, piss off landowners and neighbors and fellow hunters and deal with the consequences. The problem is it does effect everyone. Not only does it put all of our dogs in danger, you letting your pack run all over the county could result in everyone losing the right to hunt. Chasing hogs with dogs is not an inalienable right. It can and will get banned if hunters are irresponsible.

I know everyone can make a mistake and dogs can't read signs. That doesn't mean you are entitled to hunt wherever and however you want. So maybe you can't afford a tracking system. But if you can't afford the phone calls and gas necessary to get retrieval rights from each and every landowner surrounding the properties you hunt, even the ones who own the ditch you cross, then no, you don't need to be hunting.
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