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rough - 35 (64.8%)
not rough - 19 (35.2%)
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« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2009, 09:01:57 pm »

Personally I like a good rough dog.  Have hunted with some that weren't and just wasn't for me.  Don't have very many problems with runners and busted bays here, but who knows...down the road things may change.  I think the most important thing is catching hogs.  When you stop doin that you may need to evaluate your pack again and try somethin different.  Till then catch all you can!!!!!
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« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2009, 11:14:33 pm »

I plain out love hunting with any dog that wants to hunt and will hunt! If the dog hunts is what my dad always said. Dont let a dog with drive spoil becase hes rough or not rough let em run! Then and only then will you see what a dog is made of, dont give up on your young loose baying dogs, more times then not they just need to catch a few more hogs and they will get rougher, Good hunting boys ,Jason
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« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2009, 11:51:45 pm »

I have had both types and some inbetween and have come to the grand conclusion that it don't make me no differnce as long as we get most  the hogs we find .  I can promise U no matter what kind of dog are dogs you have on the ground you will not get ever hog that is barked at .

Half a Dozen one way - Half a Dozen the other .

I like dogs that get the job done Ruff , loose are inbetween !
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« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2009, 02:54:09 am »

IT MATTERS WHERE U HUNT FOR EXAMPLE SOUTH TX OR DEEP EAST TX ? DO U WANTA RUN HOGS OR CATCH HOGS ? I LIVE IN THE JASPER -HEMPHILL AREA I LIKE MY DOGS TO CHEW THE A$$ END OUTA ONE BUT NOT BE ON THE BUSINESS END. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO STOP HOGS HERE IN DEEP EAST TX. I WENT TO SOUTH TX ONCE ON A HUNT AN HAD A GREAT TIME BUT I DON'T THINK THEY WANT ME THERE ALOT BECAUSE THE HOG POPULATION WILL GO DOWN." I LIKE'EM ALL "DOGS THAT BARK ON TRACK NEED TO BE FAST REAL FAST AN GRITTY. DOGS THAT DON'T BARK ON TRACK BUT PUT TEETH ON A$$ WORK GREAT AND U ONLY NEED ONE. NEEDLESS TO SAY REGULAR LOOSE BAYIN DOGS WORK GREAT IN SOUTH TX BUT NOT HERE.ONE ROUGH ONE LOOSE BAYIN DOG THE HOGS GONNA BREAK AN RUN IT MATTERS HOW U PAIR YOUR DOGS UP. IF YOUR CATCHING HOGS IN EAST TX TRUST ME U GOT SOMETHING. KEEP UM OUTTA BAY PENS HUNT EM ALL THE TIME AN THE DOG WILL TRAIN ITSELF ALL U NEED TO DO IS GET IT INTERESTED AND THE REST WILL FALL INTO PLACE. HUNT HARD AN HAVE FUN! YOU CAN MAKE SOMETHING OUT OF NOTHING. "I LIKE'EM ALL" BUT I DO HAVE MY PREFERENCES.
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« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2009, 06:42:49 am »

I dont know if deep east texas is any different than northeast Texas but I would never own a dog  that chewed the a$$ end out of hog. None of my dogs or the dogs I hunt with will chew on the rear end of a hog. We still seem to catch a few. If I hunted rough dogs they wouldnt be rearend dogs.
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« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2009, 07:34:44 am »

Here's something for y'all to think about... if you had something chewing on your a$$, would you stop or run harder? I'm not talking about about sinking teeth into one and backing up and baying, i'm talking constant pressure. My loose dogs will bite one in the rear to stop it, but then back off. I've seen more busted bays and long races from rough dogs than anything... that's another reason I quit running them and get rid of any I raise that turn out that way.

Where there's bad runners, you always hear... "you gotta have rough dogs to shut them down". Think about where those hogs bay up. In blow downs, root balls, creek banks, caves, etc... The dogs didn't stop the hog there... that hog stopped on his own terms to back up and fight. Wink
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« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2009, 08:06:10 am »

my dogs are rough but smart i guess they'll shut a runner down quick then back off till i show up then i can hiss them in to catch  Wink
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« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2009, 08:42:43 am »

Im with the rough dogs !! but i also believe a dog can be to rough and hurts yer #'s in the end !!! i have some rangy rough / catch dogs !! some times can be a pain in the a$$ !!! by the time you catch a couple hogs they are slap wore out if they would just back up a bit Like mentioned above would not be goin through so many staple guns and laid up dogs !!! The reason we run these type dogs down here is cause nowadays EVERYONE has a hog dog or 2 or 20 !!!! so you gotta stop em they dont hang around if a dog backs off any!! get some teeth in em and hold em!! JMO!!
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« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2009, 08:56:48 am »

I voted for not rought because that is what I own.  I own looser dogs because I enjoy the bay and fewer train wrecks.  This may be a little off topic and could hurt some feeling but I question why a hog ever really stops?  I think that them stopping has alot more to do with them wanting to then anything to do with what a dog is doing.  I have seen hogs stop because a dog nips on ones rear end but by the same token I have seen them run like the wind with a dog hanging off the side of their head and one biting on the a$$.  When they want to run, they run and when they want to stop they stop.  I also don't like the idea of that hog stopping half to three quarters of a mile away and me showing up to find cut down dogs and chewed up hogs. Just my .02
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« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2009, 09:13:41 am »

I voted for not rought because that is what I own.  I own looser dogs because I enjoy the bay and fewer train wrecks.  This may be a little off topic and could hurt some feeling but I question why a hog ever really stops?  I think that them stopping has alot more to do with them wanting to then anything to do with what a dog is doing.  I have seen hogs stop because a dog nips on ones rear end but by the same token I have seen them run like the wind with a dog hanging off the side of their head and one biting on the a$$.  When they want to run, they run and when they want to stop they stop.  I also don't like the idea of that hog stopping half to three quarters of a mile away and me showing up to find cut down dogs and chewed up hogs. Just my .02

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« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2009, 11:55:11 am »

i like all dogs that can  bay 1 up. I hunt dogs that can bay a big ole boar up in the middle of the woods .Try to run and he's bit in the rear  . Guess i like them rough
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« Reply #31 on: December 03, 2009, 12:34:29 pm »

I would have to say, I like my dogs rough here in South Texas as you can see.

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« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2009, 07:16:52 am »

I think by readin on here that everyone hunts different and what one person thinks is a rough dog another person does not....  This Poll might have better results with more choices ?? you can take five poodles and if one starts bitting a hog cause its scared the rest could jump in and do the same.....Huh???
dogs have instincts and do as they see !!!!!  hence the term DOG PILE Huh?? now ya got rough dogs Huh??? 5,10,12,15,20 dogs on a hog all bitting it really to me are not rough dogs Huh?Huh?Huh?Huh?Huh?Huh?Huh?

Two dogs maybe three................. depends on the dogs one on each ear and one on a nut sack could be considered rough dogs?Huh? Also i have to disagree with the comment about a hog stops when he wants Huh? I would have to say in my situation 9.9 times outa 10 the hog stops cause all he wants to do is get that bitch off his nuts and really has no other choice Huh?Huh?Huh???  We have so many "Hog hunters" in our area all a hog wants to do is run .... i have seen the change?Huh? years ago you would never run a hog a mile or two... Everything would turn to fight ... now its eff that and run !!! ya gotta stop em quick !!!!!! JMO i like some excitement thats one of the reasons i hog hunt ... I really dont get any excitemnet if there is too many dogs involved Huh?? Anain these are JMO's and what works for me ?? Smiley
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« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2009, 07:27:35 am »

being rough to me has nothing to do with stopping a hog...It is what the dog does once the hog has stopped.  If the dog won't bay the hog, meaning he keeps pestering the hog until the hog wants to run again, then he is too rough for me.  Now if we are talking about a smaller hog, it will probably be caught by most dogs, but what about the bigger hogs.  I want a dog that backs up a bays on this type of hog, putting only the amount of pressure needed to keep him there.  Too much pressure and you will bust the bay everytime...
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« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2009, 07:42:54 am »

I guess thats what i am sayin !!! Huh?? my dogs do not... will not... bark AT ALL . never, not once Huh?? no bay.... no running in and thinkin about it... they go right to work !!! and yes i think this is a bad thing and feel i could catch more hogs if i had some bay dogs.. but just dont work that way in our neck of the woods... have to stop em now and waste no time... i do run trackin collars on my dogs cause they range out pretty good??  I guess it all depends on what works for who ?? i just dont have anything for the "dog pile" too many dogs for my style of hunting??? 

we hunt places in the glades where you might never during the whole hunt touch dry ground sometimes ankle deep some times waist deep Huh? makes for some tired dogs!! now down there i will put out my blue tick and she will catch up with one we follow in a buggy and when she turns hot we kick off the cat's .. here in the pasture / pines / cypress / palmetters..... all i will runs is my two or three dogs get to em and get it done !!!!
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« Reply #35 on: December 09, 2009, 04:26:38 pm »

I don't think that I have an answer to your question. I have hunted with some really rough dogs and didn't care for the results much. As a result, I didn't use to think that my dogs were rough.... then I hunted with some dogs that made mine look rough.... I like my dogs, they don't destroy 100lb pigs but get rough when needed and catch plenty of large hogs just the same.

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« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2009, 04:36:14 pm »

Steve,

 Are you talking about those dogs that bayed a 40# shoat for an hour or two?  Those are my kinda dogs Grin
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« Reply #37 on: December 09, 2009, 04:55:58 pm »

Steve,

 Are you talking about those dogs that bayed a 40# shoat for an hour or two?  Those are my kinda dogs Grin

How did you know?  Wink

And yes, 40lb shoats are my psudo rough dogs weakness. If they caught one that far away, we would have shown up to a bloody dinner. They literally would have laid down and eaten it Grin

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« Reply #38 on: December 09, 2009, 06:30:51 pm »

I like my dogs to catch.  I like to hunt 2-3 dogs at a time. Like Cetchdawg said these hogs run bad around here. I prefer to catch hogs not run them. This is what works for me  Cool
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« Reply #39 on: December 09, 2009, 07:00:11 pm »

I like a strike dog that will put SOME teeth on a hog and try to keep him in place till the calvary gets there, namely my big RCDs. I don't want a 3 hour race, I don't wanna run more than a hundred yards, too old and out of shape for that. I am a firm believer that catchy dogs catch more hogs. Catchy being they can hold a hog till help arrives. Rough, catchy, depends on how you define it. Last week my buddy's 45 pound cross tried to catch a 300 lb boar, he couldn't hold him long enough. Saturday night we caught a 275 boar. One little strike dog and my 85 RCD held onto and fought with the hog for 10 minutes. My dog got cut pretty bad but that is part of his job. Rougher dogs get cut more, looser dogs less. Just from what I have seen of my dogs and others dogs.
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