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« on: December 13, 2009, 07:37:03 pm » |
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Is it me or are there several people on this forum that have a dog or dogs for sale every other day. I know there are some guys on here that sell quality dogs, but I wonder how many are on here selling junk. Im not trying to stike a nerve, Im just making an observation.
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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2009, 07:48:48 pm » |
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theres some people that just like to go through dogs and keep the ones they like and theres some that sell junk. dont let cash leave your hand until the dog has proven it self and you know for a fact it is healthy. even then id get a few things in writting with a copy of a DL and signature. that will scare the crooks away most of the time.
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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2009, 07:55:58 pm » |
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I realize there are measures one can take while purchasing a dog, I was speaking more to the fact that we are all on this forum and we see who posts dogs all the time. If a guy is selling dogs all the time, it leads me to believe he is a dog trader and not someone who has a pack of 100 dogs and slowly weeds out the culls.
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« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2009, 08:06:17 pm » |
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Me and some others were talking about this the other day. Theres alot of new members joining and their first post is in the dog trades. Thats why i always review members previous post before attempting to buy a dog. Im not trying to say all the new members are dog peddlers, you just have to watch how you buy from. But like yall are saying, check the dog out and if they wont give you a trial on the dog, it would probably be better off not getting it. and as for the new members, it would be better for them to post some pics of hogs they have caught with their dogs, or even just comment on others post before going straight to the dog trades. like always that JMO  |
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« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2009, 09:30:44 pm » |
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It looks to me like the same ones plus some of the new guys posting on the dog trade. I've bought a few and sold a couple on there my self this year. Buyer beware there are some hum dingers on there.
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« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2009, 10:02:34 pm » |
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If the dog actually does what the seller is claiming then a trial and/or proof of this won't be a problem and you know what you are getting. As a seller make sure your claims can be proven and buyers just request the proof, if they won't then its not worth your time anyway. No amount of posts or bashing "dog traders" is going to stop the swapping or trading of culls, there are dishonest folks out there in every hobby or sport. All this does is make us look even worse to the people out there that would love to see our sport and services die off. We all need to remember to be as professional and represent ourselves the best we can on the public viewed board and the finger pointing and bashing kept behind the scenes.
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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2009, 10:16:11 pm » |
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Ok some of us "New Guys" come on the dog trades because its one of the best and only open forums on the net in our area. I dont know if some of yall were born into hogdoggin but if your new to the sport ya have to buy dogs. I was turned on to the site by a friend who said "Go there they buy, and sell dogs everyday". I cant beleive that you want somebody to post about other peoples remarks before we can go to the dog trader section. I personally dont know what kind of dogs im gonna try. I expect to spend a generous amount of money buyin dogs til i get the motherload of hogdogs like some of yall claim to have. I cant say that I wont sell a few of them after I figure out what works for me. There are some frequent flyers out there... Sometimes everyone likes to rush the new guy wagon. I think if you follow the reccomended reading you will get the picture "Buyer Beware"! I would post pics of hogs that i have caught when they are truly my hogdogs that caught. I have used other peoples dogs and will not take credit for their work. Im truley thankful for the chance to stand up for the new guy. Respectuful of the sites intentions and abilitys. I certainly appreciate this site more than any other for the ability to see pictures talk to other hog doggers and see the remarks that occurs inside the different forums everyday.
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« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2009, 10:39:45 pm » |
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Ok some of us "New Guys" come on the dog trades because its one of the best and only open forums on the net in our area. I dont know if some of yall were born into hogdoggin but if your new to the sport ya have to buy dogs. I was turned on to the site by a friend who said "Go there they buy, and sell dogs everyday". I cant beleive that you want somebody to post about other peoples remarks before we can go to the dog trader section. I personally dont know what kind of dogs im gonna try. I expect to spend a generous amount of money buyin dogs til i get the motherload of hogdogs like some of yall claim to have. I cant say that I wont sell a few of them after I figure out what works for me. There are some frequent flyers out there... Sometimes everyone likes to rush the new guy wagon. I think if you follow the reccomended reading you will get the picture "Buyer Beware"! I would post pics of hogs that i have caught when they are truly my hogdogs that caught. I have used other peoples dogs and will not take credit for their work. Im truley thankful for the chance to stand up for the new guy. Respectuful of the sites intentions and abilitys. I certainly appreciate this site more than any other for the ability to see pictures talk to other hog doggers and see the remarks that occurs inside the different forums everyday.
I think what the other poster was mentioning was folks who contribute nothing to this board except to post dogs for sale... I didn't take it that any of those comments were directed towards buyers...just the sellers. |
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« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2009, 10:55:51 pm » |
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"Me and some others were talking about this the other day. Theres alot of new members joining and their first post is in the dog trades." "and as for the new members, it would be better for them to post some pics of hogs they have caught with their dogs, or even just comment on others post before going straight to the dog trades. like always that JMO " I see ur point but comments like these are left to the imagination. I have been cussed and kicked off other sites for maken an offer on a dog fifty dollars less than the buyers open price. Just for bein a newbie. I get disgusted with this terminology. I have spent almost 1 day and 17 hours on this site. May have opened my mouth/keyboard twenty times. I dont care if they are new to the site these dogs may be the golden ticket for some of us. Again I agree that seems that alot of repeats of same guys with different dogs everyother day. |
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« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2009, 11:00:09 pm » |
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This is kinda like the horse world. You definately have your "traders" in that circle. Just spend enough time to figure out how legit they are and what their reputation is with other customers and make your own judgment based on what you have seen. New or not, a little research will save headaches in the future. JMO. Not directed to anyone. Only a random generalization.
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« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2009, 08:03:04 am » |
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Ok some of us "New Guys" come on the dog trades because its one of the best and only open forums on the net in our area. I dont know if some of yall were born into hogdoggin but if your new to the sport ya have to buy dogs. I was turned on to the site by a friend who said "Go there they buy, and sell dogs everyday". I cant beleive that you want somebody to post about other peoples remarks before we can go to the dog trader section. I personally dont know what kind of dogs im gonna try. I expect to spend a generous amount of money buyin dogs til i get the motherload of hogdogs like some of yall claim to have. I cant say that I wont sell a few of them after I figure out what works for me. There are some frequent flyers out there... Sometimes everyone likes to rush the new guy wagon. I think if you follow the reccomended reading you will get the picture "Buyer Beware"! I would post pics of hogs that i have caught when they are truly my hogdogs that caught. I have used other peoples dogs and will not take credit for their work. Im truley thankful for the chance to stand up for the new guy. Respectuful of the sites intentions and abilitys. I certainly appreciate this site more than any other for the ability to see pictures talk to other hog doggers and see the remarks that occurs inside the different forums everyday.
razorbackwelder, dont get your panties in a wad, we are just trying to help look after each other on here, because like you said, its one of the best and only open forums. So that means every dick and harry is gonna try to join this site, and some join just to make a quick buck off of their trash. And when i said that some of the new members went straight to the dog boards, it was to sell dogs, not buy them. yeah, when i first joined that was the first place i went to try and get me a couple of decent dogs. But new members usually dont know how to review peoples post, they dont know who has posted pics of hogs their dogs have caught, they are pretty much going by what the sellers ad says, and some are trying to sell flat out culls. We are not trying to down any of the new members, we need all the support we can get. Not everyone is going to have pics of their dogs on hogs, but if your trying to sell a finished dog, it would help to have alittle proof your dog knows what a hog is. Thats another reason it is best to get a trial with a dog. But even then, you can still get screwed. Thats why alot of topics just like this one are posted, just to keep our fellow members and hog hunters, ESPECIALLY THE NEW MEMBERS from getting taken advantage of. And like i said in the first post, this is JMO, but i think you will find alot of others think the same!! |
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« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2009, 08:07:34 am » |
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Personaly I think it is an oppertunity to do some research, just by clicking on the posters name, and then at their profile "see all recent posts by this person" you can view all that individuals posts, does not take long to see if a person is selling 2-3 top notch finished dogs a week. You can see if that person posts anything in the hunting section, if they have something intellegent or positive to contribute to the hunting world, and if they are catching any hogs with those top notch dogs, or if they only claim to have dogs for sale on a weekly basis.
I know this is not a surefire character profiling method, but you may be able to get an idea of someone you want to deal with in future transaction or not.
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« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2009, 08:15:11 am » |
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Ugly Dog, EXACTLY!! Alot of the new members dont know they can do that. It took me awhile to figure it out too!!  But thats how i know that some of the new members are only posting in the dog trades. I saw one new member that had about 10 post, and every one of them was a strike dog for sale!  And he may have 10 top dogs that he has no use for, but i would watch him pretty close before buying one of them. |
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« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2009, 08:25:07 am » |
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Well I am fairly new to the site myself, I think I joined back in the early fall. As far as what pics people post and how many posts they have, I think alot of misconceptions could be drawn from that. If you look at my profile you won't find any pics posted except my avatar. That pic was taken after a good mornin' hunt. Since then I haven't had that kind of luck again. I don't post pics of all the shoats and other little pigs I catch because I want to put a good 'un up when I do post one. I have had two ads for dogs for sale and never sold one. I didn't have much interest. Maybe it was because I am relatively new to the site. I can assure you these dogs were not culls, if they had of been I would have culled them. I have been the victim of a guy selling some of his culls on here. Makes me mad, but I abide by the rules and haven't and won't mention his name. I just want to hunt hogs like everybody else.
As I said before I am new to this site, not Hog Huntin' with dogs! For the most part I have been receicved cordially. Thank you to all of those who have been good people.
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« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2009, 08:34:22 am » |
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ok so maybe pics arent the best way to know if a dog is worth a dang or not, maybe thats just me! its just like reading a book, I like it a lot better if it has pictures But if you were trying to sell a dog, and had even 1 picture of it on a shoat, I think it would help to post it on there. I bought a couple young dogs that were suppose to be started in the pen ( not from anyone on here! ) and those 2 dogs would literally climb over the pen to get away from the hog!! |
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« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2009, 08:37:08 am » |
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ok so maybe pics arent the best way to know if a dog is worth a dang or not, maybe thats just me! its just like reading a book, I like it a lot better if it has pictures But if you were trying to sell a dog, and had even 1 picture of it on a shoat, I think it would help to post it on there. I bought a couple young dogs that were suppose to be started in the pen ( not from anyone on here! ) and those 2 dogs would literally climb over the pen to get away from the hog!! Kinda like the dogs I bought on here!!! By the way, I never tried to sell them on here, or anywhere for that matter. If you know what I mean! |
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« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2009, 08:41:41 am » |
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yeah i know what you mean, mine got culled very quick. But there are some people that would have tried to sell those dogs, just like the people me and you bought them from did.
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« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2009, 08:51:02 am » |
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I hear ya. What I don't understand is why people don't cull their own. It will eventually help the sport and the reputation of Hog Hunters with land owners. Good dogs get it done, without bayin' cows and runnin' deer. Didn't mean to steal the post, sorry!
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« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2009, 11:33:44 am » |
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I agree with twilbanks, I look at how many post they have and most of them don't have many. I'm not saying that they all are trying to make a quick buck but I'm sure some of them are. I get a kick when someone says got to sale no trial need the money asap type deal, thats a theif in my book. Baically he's telling you, I'm gonna rip you off and you ain't getting your money back. I'm just wondereing how many people still buy the dog.
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