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« Reply #60 on: December 16, 2009, 11:27:52 pm » |
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I have hunted with Tom Graham and with Texashogdogs for a couple of years now I have seen a different in how that gyp that Texashogdogs has. She went from being one hell of an help dog to a dog that go out and find her own hogs. That hunt that he lost her I was there to see it happen we never thought that she would go that far for any reason at all. She prove use all wrong that she would not go the distance that she did go. I have seen her come out of a milo patch hot on a hogs a$$ and chace it down in the open. We all was watching her catch up to the hog that had a good 100 yard head start on her. She stoped it on her own on the side of the hill and heald it until more dogs got there to help her out. To this day that gyp has change alot since Texashogdogs have got her she came out to be a hell of a Blue Lacy from Tom Graham.
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« Reply #61 on: December 17, 2009, 07:03:44 pm » |
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I have had just as many long races behind other dogs as lacy dogs. It would be hard to prove that they stop hogs better then other breeds. I think each dog determines that not a breed. I have seen good ones and bad ones. Just like any breed, not all make good dogs and some people breed for the wrong reasons.
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There's a coon, nevermind, thats Buster.
"So I pawned my lacy off to my girlfriend. That should teach her to meet men off match.com"
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« Reply #62 on: December 18, 2009, 02:13:03 pm » |
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I wonder if anybody ever thought of it this way not that it is but you never know.
Ever think it could be the owners of the dogs and not so much the dogs themselves!
I know that will proably upset some people but the way I see it the only ones it will really upset is the people that it fits !
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The older I get the less Stupidity I can stand !
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« Reply #63 on: December 18, 2009, 02:20:00 pm » |
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Yep, I have thought that many times and determined that the owners have a defined impact on every dog, no matter the breed, but also determined short range to be a predominant trait in Lacy Dogs.   I sure have been glad to find the couple of <10%ers that I have  Steve |
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« Reply #64 on: January 14, 2010, 12:29:49 am » |
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hate to wake up an old thread...
lacy dogs were bred as all round dogs on hill country ranches. meaning they were bred for working hereford type cows, hair goats, sheep, and turn out hogs. most were coon hunted at night, if not they were on loose guard dog duty. mile plus range was never a trait those old ranchers needed. they needed a steady companion, and they often made "damn good" dogs because of the time spent with them, not neccesarily because the dog itself was good. a reason a lot of them are later maturing. the old timers stuck with a dog untill it made one.
as for cowdogs. i've seen and used plenty of good ones, but styles vary from dog to dog to much. i've seen them work with a border collie style, as a hardcore bay dog, all the way to a full on catch dog, there not being a nickles worth of difference in how they were bred. some oldtimers liked a softer silent lacy with more sense around sheep and goats, and some liked a bay type dog with more grit for hogs and fur. in my opinion the best lacy cowdogs i've been around worked no different than a good BMC or cat.
short range was an original bred in trait. there wasn't much reason for one to be out of sight.
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Lets see what you guys are thinking about the lacy dogs after few years now.
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Same story I have 2 that I ve weeded out of my hog hunting program pretty nice deer tracking dogs but as far as east Texas goes seems like I have better luck with the crosses I got my hands on then the Lacys I use to run. That's just me
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I've hunted behind 1 full blood that I owned, and 1 cur lacy cross. Full blood had a lot more motor to her. Stayed busy at 100-200 but would roll in sign like a dog should. Pretty damn gritty, and quick as lighting. The cross was a decent dog. Hung around till she smelled a track and then she'd go. Decently gritty, maybe even rough by some peoples standards. Both dogs were incredibly smart and had a decent handle. Enough sense to load up, and come when called. I don't mind a lacy one bit, definitely an awesome farm dog. Haven't seen or heard of one though that was highly talked about hunting wise. Full blood that is.
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We run dillo dogs that trash on hogs
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My best dog and the best I have hunted behind is a lacy x kemmer. His range has went down since his age is up. He use to hit the ground and be gone from 600 to lost. But he usely don't roll past 500 much unless he hits a track now days. He still is very fast on track. I say his nose and bottom are his biggest asset.
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