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« Reply #60 on: February 04, 2010, 11:47:33 am » |
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hey Waylon i got some with a little ear on them i will show that catch hogs every day and bay as pretty as it gets
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« Reply #61 on: February 04, 2010, 11:56:08 am » |
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How did I miss this thread?!!! I just read every post and no one even got pissy with one another.  Sometimes you people really disappoint me on this board. lol. O well since Im here. When I was young I didn think you were hunting with a dog unless it was a hound. I love hounds and always will but when I started hunting hogs in Texas back in 87 I just naturally gravitated to the cur dogs. It didnt take long before I was trying to put a hound in the mix but only one out of all I tried ever worked out and he was only average in my opinion. I loved being able to put that dog on a big track and catch the hog that left it even if it was 12 hours later! But for everything else I used my curs and eventually was all I used. After a year of keeping up with post and comments from this boards members I have finally started to realise something. I have never hunted hogs behind truly good big game hounds...........ever. I dont know. Maybe if I had when I was younger the dogs at my house today would have a little more ear to them.  Now this is more like it folks!  |
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« Reply #63 on: February 04, 2010, 01:47:54 pm » |
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In my opinim people judge hounds and curs on different standards. For example if a hound runs a 3 hr race it is average and if a cur runs a 3 hr race it is very good. A dog is a dog and anyone making excuses for them is lying to themselves. I want the best dog I can have be it hound cur or whatever. With that said you have to rate the qualities or characteristics that you desire in your dogs and find the breed or strain that posses the highest number of the top qualities you are looking for. I have been hog hunting for many years and when I started our hog population in my hunting area was very low. (It has since increased but still not the numbers of Florida or TX) I place alot of importance on nose and bottom. When I find a hog track I want to be able to catch that hog be it under the next bush or the next county. For me hounds are the only way to go. Are they for everybody, NO. Several people have posted accounts of going all night and listening to a dog boo hoo and never stopping a hog. I can alos give accounts of people putting curs on hog sighn and letting them hunt for 30+ minutes. Catching them up and putting my plotts out, them cold trailing, (sometimes for hours and miles) and baying hogs. Or even then sometimes hunting them together and getting on a bad running hog and the curs burn out after 2 or 3 hours and my plotts bay the hog around the 5hr mark. It has allways been funny to me how people will brag on a cur for running a hog silent for 3 or 4 hours and talk about the bottom they have and then cuss a hound for running 5 hours saying that if it wasn't for all the barking they would have stopped the hog by now. There is no secret recipe...If there is I will re-mortgage the house to buy it. I have seen really good dogs in all kinds. One thing I do know is that I like good dogs way to much to be proud. Come hunt with me for a while, and if your dogs out do mine consistantly....heck I'll try to but them. I want to switch brands tommarrow because that means that Ifeel like I have found something better than what I got. Until then I guess I will just keep hunting these barking, booing muts and hope somebodies cur dogs have chewed one up and left it for us to bay. I'll leave you with some insight. Good dogs are where you find them. If you have one enjoy it because they don't last forever. If you have a good solid dog be satisfied, those once in a lifetime dogs are just that...once in a lifetime...they are not mass produced or "bred for"....if you ever hunt with one you will know what I am talking about
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« Reply #64 on: February 04, 2010, 01:53:25 pm » |
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i know what you are talking about and glad to see somebody knows what they are talkin about when it comes to hounds |
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« Reply #65 on: February 04, 2010, 02:04:24 pm » |
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Lionboar.....the best dog that I have ever owned was out of an old line running walker bitch that was a cat dog. She was not like the pen bred dogs today. She could cold trail a bobcat through a cutover with no vegitation in the panhandle of Florida (sugar sand and scrub oaks). I bred her to a 1/2 plott 1/2 leapord. 1 puppy lived and he was lemon and white with blue cracked eyes. I have seen him cold trail bear and hogs with his head up at 2-3 p.m when potlickers were standing on their head. When he got the game up he could flat pump the wind out of him. We bred him several times and never had a good get out of him. I have tried several running dogs and crosses since then. I can't find one that will stay bayed when a bad hog gets rough with them.
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« Reply #66 on: February 04, 2010, 02:33:46 pm » |
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A catahula I did not spell that right is like a opausla horse you get a good one u have something I have not seen many good ones other than djhogdogers rodwy and southeastexasplot sojo cut sojo is half cat lmao I love the cur hond cross
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« Reply #67 on: February 04, 2010, 04:13:29 pm » |
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In my opinim people judge hounds and curs on different standards. For example if a hound runs a 3 hr race it is average and if a cur runs a 3 hr race it is very good. A dog is a dog and anyone making excuses for them is lying to themselves. I want the best dog I can have be it hound cur or whatever. With that said you have to rate the qualities or characteristics that you desire in your dogs and find the breed or strain that posses the highest number of the top qualities you are looking for. I have been hog hunting for many years and when I started our hog population in my hunting area was very low. (It has since increased but still not the numbers of Florida or TX) I place alot of importance on nose and bottom. When I find a hog track I want to be able to catch that hog be it under the next bush or the next county. For me hounds are the only way to go. Are they for everybody, NO. Several people have posted accounts of going all night and listening to a dog boo hoo and never stopping a hog. I can alos give accounts of people putting curs on hog sighn and letting them hunt for 30+ minutes. Catching them up and putting my plotts out, them cold trailing, (sometimes for hours and miles) and baying hogs. Or even then sometimes hunting them together and getting on a bad running hog and the curs burn out after 2 or 3 hours and my plotts bay the hog around the 5hr mark. It has allways been funny to me how people will brag on a cur for running a hog silent for 3 or 4 hours and talk about the bottom they have and then cuss a hound for running 5 hours saying that if it wasn't for all the barking they would have stopped the hog by now. There is no secret recipe...If there is I will re-mortgage the house to buy it. I have seen really good dogs in all kinds. One thing I do know is that I like good dogs way to much to be proud. Come hunt with me for a while, and if your dogs out do mine consistantly....heck I'll try to but them. I want to switch brands tommarrow because that means that Ifeel like I have found something better than what I got. Until then I guess I will just keep hunting these barking, booing muts and hope somebodies cur dogs have chewed one up and left it for us to bay. I'll leave you with some insight. Good dogs are where you find them. If you have one enjoy it because they don't last forever. If you have a good solid dog be satisfied, those once in a lifetime dogs are just that...once in a lifetime...they are not mass produced or "bred for"....if you ever hunt with one you will know what I am talking about
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« Reply #68 on: February 04, 2010, 04:21:14 pm » |
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now this looks like something fun  ........ from my experience the best curr dog just so happen to have plott breed into it 1.) it needed a bottom end 2.) it needed gritt to stay at the bay 3.) u just have to put hound in a curr if u wanna make a curr dog that will have some hunt and as for the catahoula thing i have a catdo and will put money on where he catches a hog gotta love the dogo to |
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« Reply #69 on: February 04, 2010, 05:23:30 pm » |
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For all you that use Hounds & Curs. To cut out all the bull @#$%! we use Jack Russells. Check out the pic. 2 hogs one weighing 340lb bar and 280 lb bar. Our non-barking jack russell male "Cowboy" is in the pic excited about his catch that night!! We run 2 collars a garmin DC-30 and marshall collars.
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« Reply #70 on: February 04, 2010, 07:40:14 pm » |
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In my opinim people judge hounds and curs on different standards. For example if a hound runs a 3 hr race it is average and if a cur runs a 3 hr race it is very good. A dog is a dog and anyone making excuses for them is lying to themselves. I want the best dog I can have be it hound cur or whatever. With that said you have to rate the qualities or characteristics that you desire in your dogs and find the breed or strain that posses the highest number of the top qualities you are looking for. I have been hog hunting for many years and when I started our hog population in my hunting area was very low. (It has since increased but still not the numbers of Florida or TX) I place alot of importance on nose and bottom. When I find a hog track I want to be able to catch that hog be it under the next bush or the next county. For me hounds are the only way to go. Are they for everybody, NO. Several people have posted accounts of going all night and listening to a dog boo hoo and never stopping a hog. I can alos give accounts of people putting curs on hog sighn and letting them hunt for 30+ minutes. Catching them up and putting my plotts out, them cold trailing, (sometimes for hours and miles) and baying hogs. Or even then sometimes hunting them together and getting on a bad running hog and the curs burn out after 2 or 3 hours and my plotts bay the hog around the 5hr mark. It has allways been funny to me how people will brag on a cur for running a hog silent for 3 or 4 hours and talk about the bottom they have and then cuss a hound for running 5 hours saying that if it wasn't for all the barking they would have stopped the hog by now. There is no secret recipe...If there is I will re-mortgage the house to buy it. I have seen really good dogs in all kinds. One thing I do know is that I like good dogs way to much to be proud. Come hunt with me for a while, and if your dogs out do mine consistantly....heck I'll try to but them. I want to switch brands tommarrow because that means that Ifeel like I have found something better than what I got. Until then I guess I will just keep hunting these barking, booing muts and hope somebodies cur dogs have chewed one up and left it for us to bay. I'll leave you with some insight. Good dogs are where you find them. If you have one enjoy it because they don't last forever. If you have a good solid dog be satisfied, those once in a lifetime dogs are just that...once in a lifetime...they are not mass produced or "bred for"....if you ever hunt with one you will know what I am talking about
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Thats the best post I've ever seen on any website.
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« Reply #72 on: February 04, 2010, 09:29:09 pm » |
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hey Waylon i got some with a little ear on them i will show that catch hogs every day and bay as pretty as it gets
When you gonna invite me to come see that? Aint nothing wrong with a little ear as long as it did'nt come from a hound. hehe Don't most of your dogs have atleast half Cur in them. There has got to be a reason for that. I tell yall what.....my bigest gripe with a hound does'nt have anything to do with silent or open. It is the way they hunt. You take a hound he might leave the country looking for sign and go the complete opposite direction that I wanted to go. A hound hunts for him self and has no concern for your direction of travel. A cur dog hunts for you and will hunt in your direction of travel. I will take my cur dog and find some hogs while you wait for that hound to come back to planet earth. Just my preference. Waylon |
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« Reply #73 on: February 04, 2010, 09:35:35 pm » |
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anytime your ready my friend but you got to bring some of them good cur dogs so we can catch one |
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« Reply #74 on: February 04, 2010, 10:14:05 pm » |
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i'm going to agree with mike . in south tx i have yet to see a hog stop. not because the dogs are bad it the hogs will not hold . reason is hounds are to open on track.
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« Reply #75 on: February 04, 2010, 10:15:54 pm » |
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« Reply #76 on: February 04, 2010, 10:19:22 pm » |
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Stinking ninja instigator. LOL. It would appear that way huh?  This thread is even pissing the Jack Russel guys off now! lol Actually, I just didnt see the debate I was expecting when I first stumbled across this thread. You guys more than made up for it though. Thanks!!! I can honestly see the points on both sides of this fence. A few of you guys did an exceptional job of driving them home trust me. lol. I agree with some on both sides also. I've been to places a few times and can remember thinking "man I wish we had a good hound or two with us today". I know a few houndsman that have said the same about good curs! They may or may not admit it on this board! lol " heat"............I sure like the way you've summed it up! A good hog dog is a good hog dog no matter what the breed. I think some just shine a little more than others depending on how and were you have to hunt them. So how about those cur/hound crosses? lol............................never mind!!!!! |
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« Reply #77 on: February 04, 2010, 10:27:23 pm » |
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lionanboar im not trying to put hounds down i'v just not hunted with the right one.
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« Reply #78 on: February 04, 2010, 10:29:10 pm » |
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i have a hound r 2 that can show anybody wondering about silence if they bark they r looking
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« Reply #79 on: February 04, 2010, 10:30:27 pm » |
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Hah ninja I can think of some of those times when we said that exact thing about having a good hound . But we gotta be careful me being a lacy and cat guy and you being a yella dog with the occasional brindle thrown in . I love em' all, nothing like the bawl of a hound or the chop of a bayin cur.....now I'm confused, don't know which way to lean towards  |
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