Timid Pup (Update)

[sgt.davis]

I just got Two new pups 1/2 BMC 1/2 Plott and one is very timid and the other is not. They are 8 weeks old and I was wondering if he would come out of it. Haven't had many puppies so let me know what you think.

[muleman]

There is a ton of scientific research that says the window of 8-12 weeks is the most important period for socialization in a dogs life. i am of the opinion that timidness in dogs is also to a certain extent, hereditary. If you socialize your 8 week old puppy properly there is a good chance that he will come out of it. However, if it doesnt come out of it by 12 weeks it probably wont. just my opinion

[Austin]

I am by no means an expert, and I am sure that there are people on here with alot more experience than me but I do have a 1/2 curr 1/2 plott and he is the best dog I have ever owned.  He is silent, wont catch and will run a fairly cold track.  I have been breeding him for the past 2 yrs trying to replicate him with no luck yet.  What I have found with this cross is that the pups are either timid or not, no matter how they are brought up.  I have kept one for 2yrs waiting for him to turn on, giving him every chance.  Before I got rid of him I would still have trouble catching him.  So IMO if the pup is timid, you can either get used to it or get rid of it.  I havent had any luck getting them over their timidness.  

[sgt.davis]

Even though he is timid around people will he hunt? I can deal with him being timid if he will hunt.

[Rockin-P-Ranch]

This is a problem that we that raise these type of dogs deal with all the time. I dont raise many puppies. Just when I need to.But in every litter that I have raised there is allways one that is timid or shys away.To me it is a falt in the breeding. With that said the pup does not stay. To keep good dogs you have got to cull and cull hard. This is just my oppion. Good luck with your pup.

[STEELTRAP]

i'v been breeding ybc for 23 years and seen timid dogs never come out of it. but some of my best dogs have been timid . i would ask your self is the dog worth giving a try.

[sgt.davis]

Thanks yall. I think I know now how to handle it. Both parents are good hog dogs so I think he is gonna make a dog. Im gonna give him a chance and see how it turns out. Everything is in his favor he is just Timid.

[STEELTRAP]

i like the way you think.

[T-Bob Parker]

Allright confession time .   few months back I got a lil yella pup from a Guy on here and that sucker was
S-H-Y shy he didn't want a human to touch or really even acknowledge him, put it in the yard with Gator and he acted like any normal future hell razer, fast forward to now and he pees himself with exitement when I snap his collar on him. He's still a little hard to catch but if he grows up to be a badask then I wont mind. Plus I don't want just anybody to be able to run off with him! That has happened to Gator twice.

[uglydog]

Good luck and theres no way of really telling what will happen I have seen it go both ways.
I agree some of it is heriditary and some it is socialization. I have worked with some I that we just ended up putting down, and others with the right owner worked out just fine. I happen to be lucky enough that I got a couple of guys that are reall good with dogs, if I get them some basic of hunting and loading up, that will take the dogs and do great with them. I will give example of Clayton, he is soft spoken and lets the dogs out of kennels goes to his stock trailer and will patiently put cut collars on the dogs and let them in the boxes, after just a couple of weeks these really shy "nearly untouchable" dogs get in the routine and give him the best they can, in turn he treats them well and never pushes anything on them, or stresses them out. I have a really skittish dog out in the yard now awaiting for him to have kennel space. The dog Bays good, gets out with the other dogs, and will load in the the dog box, and allow me to put a leash on him, thats it. I feel this dog has potential or I would not have spent 6 months with him already. I have had some that wasted many months of my time that did not turn out, and so it has to be a judgement call on your end. will I ever get back out of this dog the money I have put into him, NOPE. I feel I do get more experience in learning each and every dog that I handle and thats the only return I will get from it. Good chance he dog will be shy around strangers and may act different tin the woods when strange people are around and I have also seen ones that will hunt no matter who is around but could barely catch them to take them back home. So Thats why I say it has to be a judgement call on your end, and good luck.

[STEELTRAP]

t-bob i thank you got him going your way . because when he's peeing on his self while your touching him he's realizes your the alpha to him.

[sgt.davis]

I have a 11 month old cat/plott/cur that bays his ass off till you get to the bay and he act like he is in trouble. He piss on himself when you come up to him. To me that is timid but he knows what to do with a hog. Only been on Two hogs in the woods and the bay pen alot so I think he will change with time in woods.

[T-Bob Parker]

This one pees from pure excitement, he only does it when I put his little mini cut collar on and the whole time he chirps like bad catch dog,  but he still doesn't trust anyone other than me or Amanda. 
New question:  ive got a baby girl on the way and about the time she starts wanting to pet dogs he should be a sho-nuff hog dog, do y'all think a pup that shows timidity is a kid biter in waiting?   
If you think this is thread jacking lemme know and ill start a new one.

[sgt.davis]

I think that if they grow up together he will protect her and not be mean.

[Wmwendler]

X2 on what ugly dog said

I'd like to add also that I don't think there is a timid dog out there that cannot be "fixed"  for lack of a better word.  However, what it boils down to is do I have enough patience to work with this dog long enough and will it even be worth it in the end.  Most of the time the patience runs out when it is realize the dog is not worth it.  So the dog is labled as unfixable.

My black and tan male (Joe) was wild as a coyote when I got him at 10 months.  And he had not been handled to speak of his whole life.  I was sceptical about making progress with this dog because this line of dogs are shy natured to begin with.  When I got him he was at the point that I would not turn him loose outside of a kennel because I pretty much figured I would have to trap him to catch him.  He stayed on his lead or in the kennel.  The first thing I did when we got home was walk 3 mile and we got to know each other that way no petting, no talking, and no feeling sorry for him.  Its tempting to pet a shy dog to reassure them but I really think that is counter productive because if you pet them when they are showing timidness then that is rewarding the timid behavior.  The best thing you can do for a shy dog other than taking them on long walks is go sit in thier kennel but ignor the dog.  What I did with Joe was sit on my porch with him on the lead and talk on the phone.  He did not know what to do but eventually he relaxed and then I would talk to him a little but but stop if he showed timidness from me talking to him.  But It does take time and if you are not a patient person then it might be hard.

Waylon

[Austin]

Sounds like alot of good advice on here, Good luck. I hope he gets out of it.  The thing about all of this is that if you could get every dog over timidness or get hunting or to catch just the way you want ect ect, we wouldnt have this board because everybody would have jam up dogs.  But it is not that way and I know that is what keeps me interested in hunting with dogs. 

[hog tied]

Load that pup up in the truck with you and drive!

[BarrNinja]

This is a problem that we that raise these type of dogs deal with all the time. I dont raise many puppies. Just when I need to.But in every litter that I have raised there is allways one that is timid or shys away.To me it is a falt in the breeding. With that said the pup does not stay. To keep good dogs you have got to cull and cull hard. This is just my oppion. Good luck with your pup.

Some real good advice here but I feel like its a fault in the breeding also. It does go both ways however, and it looks like you are going to try with him. Good. I've had a couple get right with time and they turned out to be good  dogs. One was exceptional.
Good luck and keep us posted.

[sgt.davis]

I got an update on my pup. Last sunday I finally got tired of messing with him and I pulled him out of the pen and put him on a chain close to the house where I could pet him and he could get used to people. Hadnt made any progress till this point and by Wednsday he was coming to me and jumping up on me. Last sunday I put him in a pen with his brother and my 11month old pup and he laid there while the other dogs was bayn and let 6 pigs run over and trample him. Today I put him back in there and he bayed his @ss off. He got hit 4 times in a row and got right back in their face. He was even putn teeth on em,which I dont wont one real gritty but he only 3 1/2 month old and that might be corrected in time. He did a complete turn around in less than week. Its the pup in my profile pic. Just proud of him and glad I didnt cull to quick.

[eastx]

I got one this past weekend, 12 weeks old, she was real timid for the first couple of days, would go to my wife but not to me, a couple days out playin with us and the other pups, and us holdin her when she's sleepin has just abput cured it, attention and luvins!