Jagds????????????

[hogslayer6]

well im fairly new to this forum and i see alot of mention about jagds. Curious little dogs id say ive never hunted w/ one or know anyone who has i came up hunting w/ cur crosses and we have fairly good success. what i was wondering is whats all the fuss about w/ these pint size kritters, do they have the same effect as short leg beagles on deer as in that they arent as big and the hogs dont run for lack of fear or are they just little sacks of TNT?

[Cajunjag]

No comparison to a beagle, NONE! - More like a super fast minature bay dog that likes to get real gritty! I swear they are bipolar, sitting in your lap waiting to be petted, then running off like a meth head in need of a fix.

[longshot]

I swear they are bipolar, sitting in your lap waiting to be petted, then running off like a meth head in need of a fix.

There you have it, no more explenation needed
Longshot

[Hog Dog Mike]

I owned one and that about explains it.

[hogslayer6]

ok so they are crazy i got that part. but how does a 15lb dog stop a 300lb hog that has runnin on his mind? just curious cause ive seen 50 and 60lb curs get drug as long as he'll hold on

[Monteria]

In that case, the pig would have the 15lb equivalent of a serrated tooth, steal jaw, leg hold trap dangling from his goodies 

Steve

[Cajunjag]

I hunt in south La, where we have small wood lots and huge rice fields. Somewhere I have a video tape of  a Jag riding the back of a 250lb sow across a rice field like the old days when they trained a monkey to ride a boder collie at the county fair! Funny $hit!

We have hogs that run forever and can't be stopped by Jags, but we also have Plotts and Cur dogs that can't stop them either. I think our dogs bay hogs when the stars and moon align just right. I have seen them run on all kind of dogs, just has to work out right. These little maniacs have an advantage in thick cover that bigger dogs don't have. But bigger dogs have advantage on other things. You just have to build a pack and find a happy medium!

[MOhogger]

I have never hunted with a Jagd,but a friend of mine has a little ol fiest X rat terrier, about the same size, that he uses for
a strike dog.That little rodent burns through brush that a bigger dog could never dream of entering.

[Ladogos]

I hunt in south La, where we have small wood lots and huge rice fields. Somewhere I have a video tape of  a Jag riding the back of a 250lb sow across a rice field like the old days when they trained a monkey to ride a boder collie at the county fair! Funny $hit!

We have hogs that run forever and can't be stopped by Jags, but we also have Plotts and Cur dogs that can't stop them either. I think our dogs bay hogs when the stars and moon align just right. I have seen them run on all kind of dogs, just has to work out right. These little maniacs have an advantage in thick cover that bigger dogs don't have. But bigger dogs have advantage on other things. You just have to build a pack and find a happy medium!

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[DoGgONit]

the jagds hunt better in the thickets , they are alot more mobile in tight spots !they are also crazy and alot of them seem to think they are bigger and badder then most other dogs  that may be 3 times there size.very independent and very gritty by nature ! been having som issue , we belive that the jagds may be to brave trying to catch by themselves and breaking solid bayed hogs !JMO take it for what its worth ....

[uglydog]

Take it for what its worth, Jagds are dogs, and any dogs are going to be good and bad of the breeds. I had one that was terrible gritty and catch all by her 18 lb self and be attached on a leaving hog. I also have one now that knows to bay, and when to apply pressure, If the hog is being bayed he is baying too, if its caught by the other dogs, he will be caught too. The same dog recently lost an eye from a hog injury, guess he zigged when he shoulda zagged, but he is rarely cut and usually baying 3 ft off the nose. Some are short range hunters, some very independent, some med-long range.
To your question, I have never hunted beagles, but several occasions I have seen a hog stand and bay for one small dog, and not worried or pressured at all.

You have some folk sout there breeding the dogs specifically for hogs, and these will usually be te ones that will bay more than catch, and others that think they should be breed to want to kill small game and have the kinda prey drive that makes them want to grab everything they hunt. Where the breed was originated they dont use bay and catch dogs, and they use the same dogs for many types of game. But all the history I have been able to find on them used on hogs they were used to drive game from the grain feilds and were shot over to kill hogs, and the Jagds aggression helped them in this task. Anything less then that the breeding warden would not permit the dogs to be bred if they did not have good scores on their feild tests. Such as engaging Fox, the Jagd that went for a throat and kill bite were considered good, and those that would bite and draw an animal out of a hole by is A$$ end were given low scores.
They are supposed to be a versatile breed meaning same dog for many tasks, That also leads to purist breeders believing that the dog should be maintained to have same temperment and size as in its origin, and others that want to make them specialty dogs, like I want  mine for hogs ONLY, this leads to arguments and division in breeders and politics. I have talked to breeders that say it is not uncommon to have 4 week old littermates fight to the death.
You can also use the search feature offered on this MB and find several other topics on the breed to see what others opinions have offered in past conversations