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« on: February 19, 2010, 10:45:47 am »

I just ran across a link to an article about hog dogging. After reading the article, I sure felt like it makes people who run a pack of hunting dogs look bad.  The print in bold is what bothers me.

Now,  I don't run "One Out", but I have no problem with people that choose to hunt that method. I figure , do what works for you, in your area. Simple as that. One out works for some, packs work for some, neither is right or wrong, but we are all in this together as hog doggers.


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More than two million feral hogs will wreak havoc on emerging crops across Texas.

County farmers and ranchers suffer damage from wild boars and sows that can knock down acres of crops in a single night. Wild pig numbers have grown so rapidly, open season is declared year round.

Two Refugio County entrepreneurs have started a new business to combat the problem and are taking hunting to a new level. They use a system perfected in Australia and Europe.

********* of Woodsboro say their hunting tactics are more efficient, more humane and more effective than hunting with packs of hog dogs.more humane...WTF?

“You don’t see our style of hunting around here, but it’s prevalent in Australia and Europe,” **** said. “By having a limited number of dogs, you’re able to feed them better, keep them well-trained, and healthy.”what does the number of dog have to do with their health and care?

The new business, ****, boasts a small, but highly efficient pack of hog dogs. The oldest, ****, is a rare wheaten and black Rhodesian Ridgeback.

Capstick caught his first boar when he was four months old is this the humane part?and has been at it for the last five years.

Riddick is a 135 pound Great Dane and Sahara is a pit bull who recently gave birth to a litter of half-Dane, half pit puppies.

The ***** put only one dog on the ground at a time, the others stay on trailers. One is used to track and another to catch. I don't understand this, is there one dog or two? If one tracks, and another catches, isn't that "two out"?A GPS tracking device and electric collars are the backup to maintain complete control.

“My dogs don’t fight the hog, they hold it until I get there,” *** says.
****** say that keeping their pack small gets the job done efficiently. All three dogs get suited up with vests to protect their necks and chests.

Typically, hunters use a large pack of dogs to hog hunt.

“I’m always hearing about dogs that get killed or injured during a night of hunting,” Josh said. “In 17 years, I have never lost a dog,” *(*** says. “We do everything we can not to get a dog hurt but at the same time, they have a job to do.”

**** says the key is in the training.

You can’t control a pack of dogs when they’re in a frenzy,” **** said. “They will run through fences and onto other people’s property.”
This is the part that bothered me, I guess one dog cannot cross a property line, but multiple dogs will?
Using the Australian method, the dog grabs the boar, and Josh uses a knife to stick him in the heart. The kill is clean, he says.

For ****, training and working with dogs is more than a business, it’s pleasure.

“Every day **** and I run four miles to the flea market near Bayside,” ****said.

The gentle giant follows her every move across the yard, wagging his tail.

The new business offers an alternative of controlled hunting and their technique is catching on with farmers and ranchers, so the couple added a second dimension to the business.

“There’s no way we can use that much meat and we certainly don’t want it to go to waste,” **** said. “My parents have always worked with various charities and we saw a need there.”

The entrepreneurs said they turn the meat over to various homeless shelters and charities.

“We probably wouldn’t be in this business if we had not found a way to use the meat,” ***** said.


What are y'alls thoughts about this type of publicity, is it a positive or negative for hog doggers?
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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2010, 10:50:00 am »

It sounds pretty negative to me, all it is is a sales pitch it sounds like.
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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2010, 10:57:17 am »

WTF  Shocked I would be curious to know just how effective his dogs really are? How many hogs have they caught so far this year? To me it seems, like alot of bold statements with no evidence to support them. His way of hunting may be effective, but to directly say "more efficient, more humane and more effective than hunting with packs of hog dogs" is a pretty big blanket statement especially for someone whose style was so much "more effective", but failed to produce a single hog last year for the TDHA tournament when the pressure was on.IMO it's just alot of TALK...
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2010, 10:59:11 am »

BTW..it fits right in with alot of the other BS you read on the WWW...It would be nice if there was some way to determine the truth of his statements, maybe by some sort of hunt (hint,hint), where he ran his "more efficient, more humane and more effective'' one out dogs against someones pack to back up his mouth. I doubt that would ever happen, but I'd be sure interested in it...

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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2010, 11:08:19 am »

try using just 1 or 2 dogs on the hogs i hunt  he will never catch one of these  they are just advertising in a style that will fool 99 percent of people that dont know anything about this sport  i say let him talk all he wants   its better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you are an idiot than to open it and remove all doubt  which is wut hes done in my opinion
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2010, 11:10:51 am »

I think its a very weak sales pitch that relies more on throwing mud on other styles than it does on its own merits.

Pretty damn shameful if you ask me.  I could shoot a million holes through just about everything in the article but I'm not going to waste my time.  
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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2010, 11:15:01 am »

x2 enough said about the arrogant sob
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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2010, 11:16:47 am »

KNEW that guy was a TOOL Evil
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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2010, 11:17:32 am »

I think its a very weak sales pitch that relies more on throwing mud on other styles than it does on its own merits.

Pretty damn shameful if you ask me.  I could shoot a million holes through just about everything in the article but I'm not going to waste my time.  

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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2010, 11:17:44 am »

The problem is that the average land owner believes most of the B.S. this guy is spewing.  We lost 27,000 acers this year because the owner met a guy at a meat processing plant dropping off 2 hogs.  He fed him a line of B.S. and now the owner has a "no dog policy" and it just so happens that he employs this guy full time to trap and hunt hogs.  This is not ag land, 100% pine thicket quail plantation.  I guess the only upside is that in 2 years when this idiot has failed, the hogs will be thicker than ever and not os dog wise.  
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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2010, 11:18:23 am »

KNEW that guy was a TOOL Evil

Sounds like he is trying to put himself and his ways above ALL Dog owners to me, and basically what he is saying is he wants to side with peta and band ways of doggin other than his way.
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« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2010, 11:21:58 am »

Yall are all wrong is each person not  granted there own out look on things that's just how he feels he ain't running down peole that run packs. He just is in to the one out.   What so bad about that?
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« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2010, 11:27:25 am »

W-Tate,

   This post is about a letter that was published about hog dogging for all the world to see.  I can delete the persons name from the article if that would make you feel better, but it does not change the tone of the article does it?
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« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2010, 11:33:09 am »

Yall are all wrong is each person not  granted there own out look on things that's just how he feels he ain't running down peole that run packs. He just is in to the one out.   What so bad about that?

I hope you are sitting down and ready to get proven wrong on that one,

This is what i read.

Josh and Krystal White of Woodsboro say their hunting tactics are more efficient, more humane and more effective than hunting with packs of hog dogs.more humane...WTF?

Josh said. “By having a limited number of dogs, you’re able to feed them better, keep them well-trained, and healthy"

“You can’t control a pack of dogs when they’re in a frenzy,” Josh said. “They will run through fences and onto other people’s property.”

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« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2010, 11:34:37 am »

I don't understand why yall are all so butt hurt about it. Just one mans thoughts. Do yall wear ur feeLings on ur shoulders???    No one busted Ned makins balls. When he was one here they found it intresting.  Are some people so close minded that they are threatned by a person that can do with one dog that most use 3-4
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« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2010, 11:37:51 am »

Butt hurt...NO

Threatened...lmao...NO

Are some people so close minded that they are threatned by a person that can do with one dog that most use 3-4

Would love to see him back up his statements and PROVE them.
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« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2010, 11:38:23 am »

 I see someone tring to push their method. Right or wrong it doesnt matter to me. I dont agree with the comments about one dog being better at catching hogs or that you can provide more hog control running one vs a pack. In some areas I be you could catch more hogs with one fast hard hitting dog but I think those places are few and far b/t. It is an article to promote his kennel and services.
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« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2010, 11:41:39 am »

I can relate to his statement about keeping dogs heathly. We have been down that bumpy road on here before. I have seen some of the poorest dogs owned by hog hunters.

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« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2010, 11:46:22 am »

W-Tate I can only assume that since you put one of his vests on every dog you run that you are closer to him than anyone else posting here.  This not a man talking about the positive aspects of his hunting method he is bashing another method in a publication for the general public, there is a difference and I fail to see where Ned has anything to do with this story other than the word Australia in the article.  I generally don't like to waste my time on this kind of junk but you gotta be able to understand what he wrote to see the flaw in it.  I have nothing personal with Josh or the way he hunts but anyone can see that what he is saying is putting "pack hunting" in a negative light.
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« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2010, 11:49:11 am »

W-Tate,

   I edited out all names from the article...Now it us just a generic article...  Grin

Here is a link to the article if anyone wants to read it in it's original text. Sitting out there on the WWW for all farmers and ranchers to read....

http://www.mysoutex.com/pages/full_story_landing?page_label=landing&id=2598737-This+dog+can+hunt&article-This%20dog%20can%20hunt%20=&widget=push&instance=landing_news_lead_story&open=&
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