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« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2010, 11:54:43 am »

Matt there is alot of negtive pack hunters people keep there dogs with no shelter.   Worms hangin out there ace. Draggin chains u would pull a dam dozer with. Feedin 30 dogs when they can afford to feed maybe 5.  That how peole view. Pack hunters.    I hunt a pack of dogs.    He might could have worded it different. But he don't  bash me.  About my pack of dogs.    The general public.  Don't see the people that take care of there dogs  anyways
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« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2010, 11:55:50 am »

I don't understand why yall are all so butt hurt about it. Just one mans thoughts. Do yall wear ur feeLings on ur shoulders???    No one busted Ned makins balls. When he was one here they found it intresting.  Are some people so close minded that they are threatned by a person that can do with one dog that most use 3-4

NOT butthurt or threatened by NO means Cheesy. However this type of article is what SPLITS dog owners when people like TDHA try to get everyone to coperate then we have a idot someone that is supposed to be promoting the sport but yet he says things to put a steriotype of hog doggers in other peoples head to Promote his buisness and throw the rest of us in the mud because he THINKS he has superdog Cheesy
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« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2010, 11:58:15 am »

Yes and No. I think the article is positive but it does down play the most common style of hunting.

I think only an uneducated or non hunter would believe that to be true. He is basically just trying to sell his style of hunting. I didnt see anything wrong with that.

However...I think any logical and reasonable thinking person knows the difference. The typically hog dogger realizes his method is just sight hunting and nothing more...no matter what he claims it to be.

Im sure his style can catch a hog but is not as effective or any less harmful to the dog....in fact it is probably more likely to harm a dog.

And if there is any question.....look who the article is written about....that should speak for itself.
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« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2010, 11:58:46 am »

I personally like the idea that there are one out hunters. It adds another option for folks to hunt their own style. That said, I personally take issue with this article for the simple reason that it puts a negative slant on hog doggers in general. This person is welcomed to have his own opinion and his own way of doing things, but if I were to publish an article stating how hunting with a pack is more humane, this guy would get way bent out of shape for my insinuating that my style is better or more ethical than his.

Again, my issue would be the same if it were a pack hunter bashing one out in a publication. Promote one out, promote hunting with a pack, promote hunting with poodles, but do not go on record in saying that one way is more ethical or humane than another.That article provides a foot hold for anti dog hunters. They can lobby to get a limit as to how many dogs you can have on the ground (like they did with blood tracking dogs), and it is not a far jump to ban hog hunting with dogs completely.

Here you have someone who is actually a participant in the sport stating in a published article that some forms of hunting with dogs is inhumane. IF it was a promotion for his kennel or his business, it was promotion at the cost of the sport of hog dogging.

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« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2010, 12:02:33 pm »

Hog hunters where sterotyped.  Long befor he ever said what was said in that article.  It don't matter what.  A one out guy says.   Pack hunters will always find  something wrong with it.    
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« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2010, 12:05:47 pm »

doesnt matter if your one dog or pack hunter his statement that in 17 years he has never had a dog killed tells me he doesnt hunt!!!! he is a total tool JMO
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« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2010, 12:06:11 pm »

Especially when there is....
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« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2010, 12:07:06 pm »

I was personaly there to witness that enterview with that reporter. I was very shocked when I read the article and saw the many many misquotes and how she twisted his words. I know for fact that he and his wife wrote and made many phone calls to get her to reprint the article and correct her misquotes and she would not. That editor also has a history of doing these kind of things.
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« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2010, 12:07:30 pm »

Hog hunters where sterotyped.  Long befor he ever said what was said in that article.  It don't matter what.  A one out guy says.   Pack hunters will always find  something wrong with it.    

He sure didnt help changing the mind of people did he?Huh?? I am  a pack hunter  and i find something VERY wrong with it. Be honesty with you i would prefer to one out hunt i think it has its advantages BUT i be damned if i am going to downtalk my fellow doggers just to promote my sport. ITS ALL HOG DOGGIN
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« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2010, 12:07:43 pm »

I think that I have a pretty good idea about who quoted that little jewel. And though I have nothing against the one-out method, The quoted is a HUGE F-ing tool!   Angry

Sorry, I tried to sugar cote it but that's just not my style.

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« Reply #30 on: February 19, 2010, 12:11:50 pm »


Here you have someone who is actually a participant in the sport stating in a published article that some forms of hunting with dogs is inhumane. IF it was a promotion for his kennel or his business, it was promotion at the cost of the sport of hog dogging.

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« Reply #31 on: February 19, 2010, 12:12:24 pm »

W Tate,

In that you are wrong. I have no vendetta against a one out hunter, and I really hate that it was a "One Out Hunter" who gave the interview for the article. This is not the way to get one out hunters and pack hunters on the same page. Hog hunting is not a competition, and the folks who say "my way is better than yours" are not in it for the right reasons. Unfortunately, I am taking this article as a "my way is better, more ethical, and more humane than your way". The REALLY unfortunate thing is that I am all for One Out Hunting, but now have a really bad taste in my mouth at the hands of one of the U.S. promoters of it.

There are admittedly some people who don't take this guy seriously, but this was not a way for him to win them over. I feel personally betrayed as do a great many.

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« Reply #32 on: February 19, 2010, 12:14:40 pm »

I was personaly there to witness that enterview with that reporter. I was very shocked when I read the article and saw the many many misquotes and how she twisted his words. I know for fact that he and his wife wrote and made many phone calls to get her to reprint the article and correct her misquotes and she would not. That editor also has a history of doing these kind of things.

That the media should misquote and pervert what a man has to say isn't a surprise. They do it on purpose to get a more sensationalistic story and drive wedges between groups. Worked pretty well here, huh?

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« Reply #33 on: February 19, 2010, 12:17:54 pm »

Guys, I don't think Josh meant to ruffle any feathers here. Like w-tate said, he's into "one out" dogs. That's their style, and nothing wrong with having your own style of hunting pigs. I think this whole thing got worded wrong. I think he was just trying to describe his way of hunting and this was the result. I don't think he's trying to hurt the hog dogging community. If you guys could call him and delete this topic, I'm sure they will modify the words that are ruffling feathers. No need to bash a man when he's down. We're all family, there's other ways of going about this.
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« Reply #34 on: February 19, 2010, 12:20:35 pm »

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I was personaly there to witness that enterview with that reporter. I was very shocked when I read the article and saw the many many misquotes and how she twisted his words. I know for fact that he and his wife wrote and made many phone calls to get her to reprint the article and correct her misquotes and she would not. That editor also has a history of doing these kind of things.
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« Reply #35 on: February 19, 2010, 12:22:28 pm »

Guys, I don't think Josh meant to ruffle any feathers here. Like w-tate said, he's into "one out" dogs. That's their style, and nothing wrong with having your own style of hunting pigs. I think this whole thing got worded wrong. I think he was just trying to describe his way of hunting and this was the result. I don't think he's trying to hurt the hog dogging community. If you guys could call him and delete this topic, I'm sure they will modify the words that are ruffling feathers. No need to bash a man when he's down. We're all family, there's other ways of going about this.

If he can, and does, successfully pressure the publisher into printing a retraction, and revision summary, I would give him consideration on a personal level. Even so though, the dammage is done and there is no undoing it now.

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« Reply #36 on: February 19, 2010, 12:24:53 pm »

Those are quoted statements that were published, guess if he didnt say them then he may have a good case.
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« Reply #37 on: February 19, 2010, 12:25:10 pm »

It is too late to modify words, this article is in print for the world to see.

If a publication has a reputation for changing and twisting interviews, would a person not have an inclination to run the other way rather than to risk their words being twisted to suit a corrupt publication?

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« Reply #38 on: February 19, 2010, 12:27:31 pm »

As far a tool status I don't give a fck. What yall think   I ain't one to mouth people I don't know. Or have never met cas far as u punks talkin crap to me. How do u know me ?  


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« Reply #39 on: February 19, 2010, 12:31:20 pm »

I am not talking smack about anyone. I am only commenting my opinion on words published as being that of a fellow hunter. The article quotes him as making derogatory remarks about hunting with dogs other than his own style, and he promotes the article on his website. Sounds pretty cut and dried to me.
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