Is this type of press bad for most hog doggers?

[elliscountyhog]

As far a tool status I don't give a fck. What yall think   I ain't one to mouth people I don't know. Or have never met cas far as u punks talkin crap to me. How do u know me ?  


Sorry I can't sugar coat.  Things either  

Sounds like you are one to mouth people now? Y you getting so offended anyway we are talking about the guy that wrote and how he is misleading readers about hog doggers, not you and now you calling us names. You the guy that wrote the article?

[mradel]

Funny fact is the editor/reporters husband is a hog hunter and the first question she asked was how many dogs do you get killed. He nor his wife ever said anything about ethical or humane, that was something she came up with on her own. I could see why he would not turn down a enterview with her because he has know her for many years and she has writen many articles on him in the past and did a good job on those.

[aladatrot]

So does she or does she not have a reputation for twisting and taking things out of context as stated before?

Cheers
M

[Hawkins]

I could see somebody wanting a news article done on them if he was promoting his buisness...I guess even if they had a history of twisting a story.

The real answer here is was the story actually twisted?

If it was twisted shame on them, if it wasn't shame on him for not wording it properly to protect the future of hog dogging.

[Piglywigly]

You know, a guy once told me before we both graduated college, when we were waiting tables at carrabba's Italian grill, he said "you get mad and bad mouth me, I get mad and bad mouth you, we both feel like crap afterwards regreting everything we said and wish the whole conversation had never taken place." I've always remembered that over the years. He was respected by everybody and always a pleasure to work with. He never got caught up in the drama that would always stir in the kitchen on Friday and Saturday nights. Here recently, I've tried to live by it. Can't say I do a good job at it, but better than I ever have. I think we should think about what we all say, and not be so quick to act. One day, it might be one of us on the other end.

[mradel]

Yall pick apart every thing he USED to write, treat the guy with zero respect, and all because he doesn't hunt the way yall do and has seen and done things you may never do and you just can't get. The guy is one of the most open minded and good hearted people you will never get to know and after the way he was treated on these boards you expect him to suport you and help preserve your way of hunting. The fact that he DOES and just put his neck on the chopping block for TDHA is a true testament to his caractor.

[olde sarge]

Well Ladies and Gentlemen, after following this thread and several other threads about this fellow and his way of hunting, I am once again amazed at the fact he said exactly what you all say everytime a "one out" hunter is mentioned. Yet you are indignant that he might say he thinks his way of hunting is better as you always do. Maybe we should take pause and stop this my way is better than yours and not supply ammo to those looking for ammo to bash us all. Many times silence ia a far better tool than being indignant about someone saying the same thing about us we have said about them.     John

[Circle C]

just put his neck on the chopping block for TDHA is a true testament to his caractor.

Would you care to elaborate just how he put his neck on the chopping block for TDHA?


Also, I think it has been stated by myself and several others that we don't take issue with his style of hunting, but do take issue with the article as it is presented.  I feel about a few comments on that article the same as I do about some videos I see on YouTube, and some of the pictures that we delete from ETHD...I think that they are a problem for all hog doggers regardless of style.

[jls41]

just put his neck on the chopping block for TDHA is a true testament to his caractor.

Would you care to elaborate just how he put his neck on the chopping block for TDHA?

Oh yes, please do!!  I would definately be interested in this answer!!!

[Piglywigly]

Well Ladies and Gentlemen, after following this thread and several other threads about this fellow and his way of hunting, I am once again amazed at the fact he said exactly what you all say everytime a "one out" hunter is mentioned. Yet you are indignant that he might say he thinks his way of hunting is better as you always do. Maybe we should take pause and stop this my way is better than yours and not supply ammo to those looking for ammo to bash us all. Many times silence ia a far better tool than being indignant about someone saying the same thing about us we have said about them.     John

silence would be good for this thread.

[BigAinaBuilt]

I've read the original article and also every response in this thread and here is my .03 on the matter.

First of all, He speaks of a "style" from Australia one out but he has 3 dogs. I believe 1 out would be I have 1 dog that tracks grabs and lets me know where he has the pig so I can respond. Using more then 1 dog makes his style a pack style.

 Second of all, He says he has never lost a dog in 17 years but Capstick (the oldest) is only 5.

 Third , He says he keeps the other 2 dogs on a trailer while sending out 1 and then releases another to help grab?? Is that not the same as having a leg dog that will honor another dogs find??

And if you admit to hunting off of a trailer you're admitting to driving in or around a pasture, spotting a hog or sounder and then pushing a grab dog on it. I fail to see where the extra skill comes from with this method.

Once again it is just my feelings and I understand some guys have to take advantage of the less educated on the matter to survive but at least know exactly where you stand before putting it out in front of your peers.

[matt_aggie04]

I was personaly there to witness that enterview with that reporter. I was very shocked when I read the article and saw the many many misquotes and how she twisted his words. I know for fact that he and his wife wrote and made many phone calls to get her to reprint the article and correct her misquotes and she would not. That editor also has a history of doing these kind of things.

mradel
If the above statement is true, why is it also promoted on the persons very own website?  I know that if someone misquoted me, I would not be promoting that particular article....


Refugio County Press: Story about L3Outdoors
http://www.l3outdoors.com/links.html

If someone misconstrude a story that I gave permission to them to publish the last thing I would is promote that article on my website.  Again I have nothing against anyone or the way the hunt and I enjoy hunting with as few dogs as possible but I don't agree with the finished product of the article no matter whose fault it is.

[Dexter]

  ok folks everone needs to put thier hands up and back away from the key boards for a minute
 stop bashing Josh i  will bet  just like Matt said his word was twisted.
 as for W-Tate  i have met him and seen him a couple of times and he is a stand up type of guy with a great loyalty   to his friends, country and this sport so before you  knock someone ya need to know them

 now think we are all  brother in the hunt for the wild hogs and need to act and band together or we are all bgoing to be sitting with empty kennels and  boxes

  we all need  to ban together and work together to  shine a positive note on our great sport that rids the earth of this vermin we have a hard enough fight with all the treee hugger groups trying to tell us what where when and how to do thing and when they are no more than a terrorist group  looking for thier second on TV

  so come on  yall  lets work together  ban together   for the good of us all

 now i will step down of my soap box just to add one more
       Dexter

[djhogdogger]

I hope that PETA doesn't see this as a chance to divide and conquer!!!!

[Circle C]

Guys and gals,
   I can't help but think the point of the original post has been lost.

There is an article that has been published in which a hunter is, in my opinion, talking down other types of hunters. This is not about an individual and how he chooses to hunt. It is about an individual and how he chooses to discuss other peoples hunting methods.  I and many others posting on here could really care less about the individuals hunting tactics. It's how they present other hunters that got under my skin.


 We have members on ETHD that hunt one out, two out, and twenty out....that's not what this is about. It's not about what methond is better, it's about how hog hunters are presented to the public.

[BigAinaBuilt]

Hey Circle C, I began reading the article with every intention to stay on track as far as positive VS negative publicity for the sport of hogdoggin but by the time I got to the end of the article I had felt like while trying to sell his services he belittled one method by comparing and making his method sound superior. I have now gone back and reread just your question after I have already read the article and feel it definately does shine a negative light and stir up a few mixed emotions. As far as if he said these things intentionally , Noone will ever know the truth except him! I am sorry if I went off on a totally different direction but my original response was posted within seconds of reading the article.

[Circle C]

Bigainabuilt,

    I think you must have read the same article I read....   

[Dexter]

 i hope that it was twisted word or i will give the shadow of doubt on that, after being on the salado fd and seeing how reporters
screwed my words up before and more than once
  Dexter     

[southsidehunter]

 I tell you folks, if it ain't ETHD way it isn't right. Now I have talked to this guy by phone and he seemed like a real cool guy. We all know that he use to be a regular on here, they didn't like him on here and now they want to bash him from behind a computer. You should just go up to him in person and tell him how you feel and what he did was wrong instead of come on here like a little girl and complain to all the big brothers. :'(

[southsidehunter]

 I come on here to see what people catch and get good hunting stories and I get this. Poor dude is trying to feed his family and people are complaining.